Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelli Smith (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kelli Smith

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fails WP:NFOOTBALL Joeykai (talk) 09:19, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As she has not played in WP:FPL Seasider91 (talk) 21:01, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NFOOTBALL may or may not be a credible guideline for men's football (and I would argue that it's not), but for women's football it is certainly not. What does the professional (or otherwise) status of other players in other teams of a league possibly have to do with the notability of one particular player? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 21:29, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The WP:NFOOTBALL policy concerns the notability of association football players regardless of age, race or gender, when creating an article on Wikipedia the guidelines for notability have to be met otherwise any Tom, Dick or Harry could have a Wikipedia article made about them and that would take up a lot of space Seasider91 (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is precisely that players are being judged by a one-size-fits-all guideline that is not appropriate for all of them. A guideline that works well for male players in England in the modern era, for whom the boundaries between the professional, semi-professional and amateur levels of the game are pretty clearly defined, is being applied to female players and to male players in countries where there is not such a clear-cut distinction. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 13:01, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Football's WP:FPL list gives us a pretty decent idea which leagues around the world are professional in both the men's and women's games. Unfortunately Kelli Smith has not played in the top league in America. If she had she would be notable. Seasider91 (talk) 13:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nothing at all convincing for independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 05:54, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 05:58, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:32, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 08:23, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:32, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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