Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nawab Sir Faridun-ul-Mulk Bahadur, K.C.I.E.

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:24, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nawab Sir Faridun-ul-Mulk Bahadur, K.C.I.E.

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Moved back and forth between mainspace and draft and both declined and rejected prior to most recent move. Unable to find any further coverage in a 'naive' search and the issues raised by Bonadea do not appear to have been fully addressed. Unable to verfiy statements in the article and improperly sourced. Eagleash (talk) 10:57, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Royalty and nobility and India. Shellwood (talk) 11:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I draftified it to give the creator a chance to fix the issues, but they ignored that (or didn't understand what was going on). Being related to royalty, or being part of a notable family, does not automatically make someone notable (WP:NOTINHERITED). There are now three sources in the article; one of them is listed as Outline Of A Metaphysics but is actually the directory Hyderabad State List of Leading Officials, Nobles and Personages from 1932 (the misleading title must be due to some database error over at archive.org, it's not the article creator's fault). In any case, it's not clear what that source is supposed to show, and I've not been able to find the person in that list. Then there's 1936 Hyderabad Directory, also added as a ref without any indication of what it shows. There is an entry on page 244 of the Hyderabad Directory, which says "Fareed Nawaz Jung Bahadur Nawab, Begumpet" – that's all. And finally there is a document from the Andhra High Court, about a taxation case involving the person. These sources say nothing more than that he existed, and the Wikipedia article is a list of his family members – WP:NOTGENEALOGY applies. The article has previously included claims about him being Prime Minister and/or President of Hyderabad, but it was never possible to find any sources that supported that, and it looks like the article creator has removed that assertion again.

Variants of his name, according to the article and the titles it has had, include Fareed Uddin Khan, Fareeed Nawaz Jung (Bahadur), and Faridun-ul-Mulk Bahadur. Nawab is a title which appears to be treated as part of a name in some cases, but not all. This makes it harder to find sources, but I have made a good-faith search to try to find if there is any reason to think this is a notable individual – and I haven't succeeded. --bonadea contributions talk 18:10, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If he definitely existed and definitely held a knighthood then he is clearly notable per WP:ANYBIO #1. But did he exist and did he hold a knighthood? I can't find his knighthood gazetted in the London Gazette, but given the massive variations of spelling used in Indian names that can be a real uphill struggle. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
i have found a refrence to nawab Fareed nawaz jung which i have added to the refrence list Wik!geek (talk) 11:51, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where in that volume does he appear? -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.