Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amy DeGise

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The result was delete. Doczilla _{@SUPERHEROLOGIST} 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amy DeGise

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seems like a WP:BLP1E, she's not notable under WP:NPOL and the only coverage is currently from a potential crime, though it isn't significant enough to warrant an article. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:19, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, and New Jersey. Shellwood (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Fails WP:NPOL. Agreed that this is a WP:BLP1E, not notable by WP:GNG standards. Sal2100 (talk) 20:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. She does not meet NPOL. The only non-routine coverage I can find revolves around the hit run, so BLP1E also applies. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 15:36, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a sad story, but all we have is the one incident. Alansohn (talk) 04:26, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Jersey City is not a global city for the purposes of securing the "inherent" notability of its city councillors, so getting her into Wikipedia requires not just verifying that she exists, but demonstrating that she has a credible claim to being one of the most individually significant non-global-city councillors in the entire United States. That hasn't been shown here at all, as it's referenced entirely to primary sources rather than independent or reliable ones, and even the sourcing that could potentially be added to bolster it just makes her a WP:BLP1E rather than a topic of sustained nationalized interest. I suspect, frankly, that this was created in an attempt to misuse Wikipedia as a "name and shame her for doing a bad thing" platform instead of an encyclopedia. Bearcat (talk) 12:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearcat I suspect, frankly, that this was created in an attempt to misuse Wikipedia as a "name and shame her for doing a bad thing" platform instead of an encyclopedia. indeed and the scary part is that it was created by an administrator who should absolutely know better wrt BLPs. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:38, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Do not delete. Though I agree with the previous criticisms that the article was largely focused on coverage of her recent hit-and-run arrest, I have expanded the article with coverage of her significant political career. The chair of the Hudson County Democratic Organization is a political boss who, though not inherently notable by virtue of the office, holds large implicit power by virtue of their ability to sway a primary election in the region and state. See the article on Frank Hague for elaboration on how significant DeGise's position is or George Norcross for the importance of political bosses in New Jersey. Though there is some debate over whether DeGise or her father (or neither) is the boss of the Hudson County Party, she is not merely a council member. I hope that my edits will have made the article, which I agree was lacking, sufficient. I will continue to find suitable sources; I think an article should probably be written for her father, too. -A-M-B-1996- (talk) 01:51, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't enough to cite four pieces of purely run of the mill local coverage in her local media where such coverage is merely expected to exist — every city councillor in every city can always show three or four hits in their own local media, so if four hits of local coverage were all it took to exempt a city councillor from our inclusion standards for local politicians then no local politician would ever actually be subject to those standards at all anymore. To actually get a city councillor into Wikipedia, you would have to show nationalizing coverage, demonstrating a reason why she could credibly claim to be one of the most individually important city councillors in the entire country. Bearcat (talk) 13:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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