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Locations of advisories

Tropical Weather Outlooks: ABPW10

Tropical Cyclone Advisories:

JMA: 01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 05 // WWJP27

JTWC: 01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 05

NWS Guam: 01 // 02 // 03

HKO: WTSS20 // WTPQ20

KMA: 01

ICAO: 01 // 02 // 03

Prognostic Reasonings:

JMA: 01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 05

JTWC: 01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 05 // TCFA 1 // TCFA 2 // TCFA 3

PAGASA: Severe Weather Bulletin // Tropical Cyclone Advisory // Typhoon Warning // Tropical Cyclone Index

Archives: CMA // HKO // SMG// JMA // JTWC // NOAA // TMD // KMA // PAGASA// NCHMF// IEM

RSMC Best Track Data

JMA (all tracks) // NOAA // WIS Portal

Name	Date Released
2201.Malakas	July 15
2202.Megi	July 16
2203.Chaba
2204.Aere
2205.Songda
2206.Trases
2207.Mulan
2208.Meari
2209.Ma-on
2210.Tokage
2211.Hinnamnor
2212.Muifa

Draft:Tropical Storm Megi (2022)

Hi everyone, i made the Draft of Tropical Storm Megi. you are welcome to improve expand the draft. HurricaneEdgar 07:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will work on this when I find a slot in my busy schedule. Chlod (say hi!) 00:17, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Malakas - Very Strong Typhoon?

Hi everyone! I think by now the winds of Malakas are worthy of a Very Strong Typhoon. Should this be changed? 🌀AwesomeHurricaneBoss🌀 12:14, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NDRRMC reporting error for Megi

The earlier reports saying that the NDRRMC counts 224 deaths from Megi was caused by a reporting error. Please do not restore the 224 count unless included in an official situation report. Chlod (say hi!) 12:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ACE talk page

Should I begin a ACE calculations page (as a specialized archive) of the season (Just like the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basins)? Thank you, Kayree kh (talk) 02:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, never mind. I saw the reasons for why the the other talk pages were deleted. Apologies, Kayree kh (talk) 03:05, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Typhoon Chaba

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Chlod (say hi!) 01:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Typhoon Chaba (2022)

If anyone can help me with this draft, I'll be really apperceive. I'm working on the draft article as of right know but if anyone wants to help out please do. PopularGames (talk) 20:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Japan Meteorological Agency Tropical Disturbance Summary

So when the JMA marks a tropical depression with 30 knots in the disturbance summary, but doesn't give it a tropical cyclone number like "TC202205", the equivalent to a gale warning with advisories, it doesn't get included in the season effect chart as having an intensity? Grifforzer (talk)

Aere and Chaba pages

Aere and Chaba need pages. They caused damage and Chaba sunk a ship. They also lasted a while so i think they are notable. I know @PopularGames started a draft but it is incomplete. No draft on Aere though. 2601:547:4280:3020:9D9F:B5C6:BC01:C57F (talk) 21:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. Hurricane Su (talk) 19:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a decent article can be crafted for Chaba, especially given the sinking of the Fujing 001. But, if more noteworthy details cannot be gathered, then perhaps not. Regarding Aere, unless there was noteworthy impact from its landfall, the best way to present the storm to readers may well be in the 'Systems' section of this article rather than through a separate article. (WP:NOPAGE). Drdpw (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Drdpw Ok. I may make a Chaba page eventually. Hurricane Su (talk) 22:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chaba sinking a ship is not enough to warrant an article. The information about the sinking ship can be written in its section on this article, and related terms can just redirect here. As for Aere, our fellow editors at the Japanese Wikipedia did not pick up on anything noteworthy enough to write an article on, just a landslide in Kōchi Prefecture — I don't see why we should have an article on it given the fact. Chlod (say hi!) 02:03, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't disagree with your assessment Chlod. Aside from lacking a sentence or two about impact, Aere appears to be fully covered in this article. Regarding Chaba, the information about the storm in this article appears to fully cover it. Furthermore, the existing Chaba draft parrots the storm history and impact from this article without expansion or greater depth. Drdpw (talk) 14:54, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have helped fix @PopularGames's Draft for Chaba, but I realized I was working on it alone, and then I gave up. GDFilbert (talk) 01:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In Early August. GDFilbert (talk) 01:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have boldly redirected the draft to the "Typhoon Chaba (Caloy)" section of this article. Drdpw (talk) 20:51, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are we sure they can’t have articles? It’s very rare for a tropical cyclone that causes 12 deaths not to have an article. especially in 2022. 47.21.202.18 (talk) 18:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chaba's death toll

What happened to the other 13 people that was on the ship? Are they still missing? Mobius Gerig (talk) 02:59, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Tropical Storm Ma-on (2022)

Hello, I've improved this draft (Meteorological history and leads) Please feel to expand on the preparations and impact of the storm's. HurricaneEdgar 23:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images and icons of the VSTY and VITY

Hello everybody. I ended up noticing that all types of cyclones have their respective images except 2: the very strong typhoon and the violent typhoon. In the default only "TC" appears but not the icon image. I created two especially for VITY and VSTY. I just wanted to know if I did the right thing when creating it, just to not get ugly. André L P Souza (talk) 03:22, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done adding a new icon in Module:Storm categories/icons. anyway, can you create a strong typhoon icon? -- HurricaneEdgar 04:35, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneEdgar I can, but I don't think there's any need. STY and TY are the same thing. It took me a lot of work to edit these photos because I did everything on my cell phone. Thank you so much for accepting. André L P Souza (talk) 05:19, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneEdgar I sent there in the commons the STY. Hope you like it. André L P Souza (talk) 05:37, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is an issue. Can you change a STY to a Strong TY Because it will mislead the reader. STY referred by the media as Super Typhoon HurricaneEdgar 05:56, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneEdgar I already asked to rename the file. I accidentally renamed the wrong photo file. André L P Souza (talk) 06:42, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those are icon overrides. Addition should have been made to Module:Storm categories/categories, much like how icons are set for every other category. Chlod (say hi!) 10:47, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hinnamnor to enter PAR

If Hinnamnor entered PAR, possibly PAGASA will name Hinnamnor "Henry". If Hinnamnor entered PAR, please edit the page to include the Philippine name. e.g. Typhoon International Name (Philippine name) In this case, Typhoon Hinnamnor (Henry) Thehappygolucky (talk) 10:39, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We do this literally every time. Chlod (say hi!) 10:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

@Daniel boxs: Is this really worth edit warring over? Would have just been easier to add it back in than remove the entire summary. Chlod (say hi!) 01:34, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

JMA Scale

I feel that we need to use Typhoon since the JMA does have it. https://www.data.jma.go.jp/multi/cyclone/cyclone_caplink.html?lang=en HurricaneEdgar 10:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hinnamnor draft

I've been working on a draft for the storm over here. I thought I'd add this here in case anyone wants to help. I added most of its met history and an opening paragraph. StopBoi (talk) 04:22, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article should be needed since it is expected to make landfall as one of the strongest typhoon in S.K. Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 07:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Cyclone 15 (TC202215)?

Hinnamnor was tropical cyclone 13. 13W was tropical cyclone 14. 14W is currently being called tropical cyclone 16 (TC202216) by Japan Meteorological Agency. We're missing a depression somehow. Grifforzer (talk) 08:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Grifforzer: Source? But either way this seems extremely false. The JMA only designates storms when they are tropical storms (By the JMA). As of this edit, 14W have became Muifa, which is JMA's Tropical Cyclone 13 (2213). Hinnamnor was 12. Typhoon2013 (talk) 00:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://imgur.com/J79VtW1 - Hinnamnor (TC id 13)

https://imgur.com/ODPrQ2m - this would be 13W BUFR message from JMA (TC id 14)

https://imgur.com/ZKdxFeg - Muifa (TC id 16)

If I'm reading these wrong, I'm sorry. Grifforzer (talk) 01:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

also the Japan Meteorological Agency website https://www.jma.go.jp/bosai/map.html#5/23.921/126.83/&elem=root&typhoon=TC2216&contents=typhoon addresses "typhoon=TC2216" or year 2022 and ID number of system 16. Grifforzer (talk) 02:10, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Grifforzer: The JMA website clearly states Muifa as "12" in their official site currently. The other sources you have provided is not really from a reliable site, but either way, the ID number of Hinnamnor clearly states "2211". Please follow reliable sources such as the JMA. Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

okay, I just wonder if we missed information from Welcome to Tokyo Global Information System Centre https://www.wis-jma.go.jp/d/o/RJTD/BUFR/Satellite(Himawari)/SAREP/ messages when it's "translated" into data. Grifforzer (talk) 03:21, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]