Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Meshkhab SC
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. The arguments that the topic lacks significant coverage have not been countered. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:09, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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Subject fails WP:NCORP and GNG. The citations are mostly mere mentions; koora and goalzz seem to be just indexes, if they're even WP:RS, which I doubt; iraqcenter.net fails WP:SPS. I did a BEFORE search in English (I don't speak Arabic) and didn't find anything useful. This is yet another sportsfan webhost that this editing community fails to prevent. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Iraq. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:21, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- If you do not speak Arabic, you cannot judge the article as a candidate for deletion. In the article, 6 sources mentioned Al-Meshkhab's participation in official tournaments with other clubs. There is also the Al-Meshkhab page on Goalzz.com that I refer to in the External Links section. I think this is enough to show the notability of the club, and the sources do not have to be in English. SonOfBasra (talk) 16:22, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- As per my comment below, a club participating in an official tournament does not automatically make it notable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per User:SonOfBasra and that it is a team currently participating in a notable leagueIraq Division Two previous was also in Iraq Division One. KSAWikipedian (talk) 16:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Participating in a notable league is irrelevant per WP:NOTINHERITED. What matters is WP:GNG, which is clearly not met. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 18:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Per @KSAWikipedian: and @SonOfBasra:. I look at the other Sports WikiProjects (or any WikiProject) and they don't nearly have an article deleted per day, let alone 30. By the time I finish writing this, another 30 will probably be deleted. Article may need improvement, but definitely not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 15:40, 27 August 2022 (UTC)„“
- Delete - the Kooora/Goalzz profile does not list any news articles (see this as an example of a club with multiple news reports). Regarding the six sources mentioned by SonOfBasra above:
- The aforementioned kooora profile
- azzaman.com: passing mention
- iraqcenter.net: blog post
- Al-Mada 1: passing mention
- Al-Mada 2: passing mention
- goalzz: league table
- There is nothing that indicates notability to me. Nehme1499 09:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Nehme's argument for deletion is extremely convincing. Passing mentions do not add up to GNG and there is no presumption of notability for football clubs so notability would need to be demonstrated. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - the Kooora profile mentions the club’s participation in the official tournaments, as is clear here, and the rest of the sources are of the type of news that mentions the details of the club’s participation in official tournaments with the rest of the clubs, and this is enough to show the club’s notability. SonOfBasra (talk) 05:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Participating in competitions is not the criterion. Where are the multiple reliable and independent sources providing detailed media coverage of this club? Database sites like Kooora are not acceptable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:03, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:45, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Non-notable club that lacks sigcov. Avilich (talk) 21:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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