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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by PigeonChickenFish (talk | contribs) at 19:41, 2 November 2022. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

  • Comment: Responding to the sourcing issues M4V3R1CK32 left on my talk page here. For a person to be mentioned, and the mentions are found in many publications, fulfills one criteria for passing for WP:GNG - so that is not a reason to dismiss sources. 1) The Milwaukee Bronzeville Histories is not a blog or self published as it has more than one person working on it, and it is supported by the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, among other institutions.[1] 2) The Abraham Lincoln Brigade Archives was founded by the Veterans of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade (VALB),[2] which has a profile of Cleveland Colbert and has sources listed and database page on the website.[3] 3) Black Milwaukee has two paragraphs, therefore that is not a trivial mention. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 01:08, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: For more in-depth explanation of why the sources used fail to meet GNG, see this discussion. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 22:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: @M4V3R1CK32: It would be helpful if you were more explicit with the issues here (like sourcing) - please tag the drafted article as you see problems, so they can be addressed by editors. Thank you. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 02:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: Please examine MOS:BIO, in particular the guidelines on the opening paragraph. Focus on the most notable aspect of Colbert's life (I'd argue the presidency of AANES) over other elements.
    Even changes made to make the article more in-line with that guideline, I do not believe Colbert qualifies for an article under WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Notability dictates that not only must a subject have sources to cite about them, the sourcing must be significant and address the topic in detail. Bronzeville Histories is an okay source, but I am not seeing anything that demonstrates significant coverage of who Colbert was and why he was a notable historical figure beyond that. The other sources listed contain only brief mentions or are unsuitable for heavy use on Wikipedia because of bias or their primary nature. For those reasons, I am declining this submission. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 22:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: Today new citations and details were added to clarify notability. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 04:07, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: I attempted to clean up the text and clarify. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: This article makes little sense to the reader in its current form. Colbert was certified after an election. Then his election was overturned, although it's never been properly introduced. Then Philip Markey is introduced as the winner, and LeRoy Simmons as the first African American in the Wisconsin House of Representatives with no context whatsoever. Greenman (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Cleveland Moland Colbert (October 6, 1906–January 23, 1962) was an African American 20th-century community organizer, political candidate, and author.[1] Colbert served as the president of the Afro American National Economical Society (AANES) in the 1940s. In 1942, Colbert was elected as the second African American to serve in Wisconsin State Assembly; he was declared the election winner and it later was overturned by a recount, the seat was given to Philip Markey.[2][3][4]

Biography

Cleveland Moland Colbert was born on October 6, 1906 in Old Spring Hill, Alabama, to parents Minnie Cook and George Moland Colbert.[5] He and his family lived at 813 West Galena Street in Milwaukee's Bronzeville neighborhood.[1] He had worked in many roles including as a musician, an upholsterer, a crane operator, and an aviator.[1] For a few months the 1930s Colbert served against his will as an aviator in the Spanish Civil War, where he was supposed to be in contract for commercial flying.[1]

In 1940, after he had returned to the United States, Colbert was the president of the Afro American National Economical Society (AANES).[1] The AANES supported the African American community through encouraging industrial businesses, as well as serving the civic, charitable, and social welfare needs.[1]

Colbert was active in local politics, he won the election primaries against three competitors.[6] In October 1942, Colbert was initially certified as the election winner of the 5th district seat in Wisconsin, before the results were overturned.[7][8][9] After a recount, Phillip Markey was declared the winner, wining only by a few votes (as little as 10 votes);[2] and Colbert was given $200 USD for his expenses during the period of recount.[10][11][12] Colbert was a Republican.[2][13] Lucian H. Palmer was the first African American to serve as a member of the Wisconsin state legislature; and Colbert would have been the second, if the election recount had not unseated him.[2][6] LeRoy Simmons subsequently became the second African American to serve in the Wisconsin House of Representatives.

He authored the book, The Afro-Americans’ Problems and Solution (1951; Dell and Dell Publishers).[1] The book can be found in the Special Collections Department at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee.[5]

See also

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g Alex, Kitonga. "Cleveland Colbert - Advocate for Self-Determination". Milwaukee Bronzeville Histories. Retrieved 2022-09-14.
  2. ^ a b c d "Fight Over Assembly Seat". Newspapers.com. The Capital Times. January 14, 1943. p. 10. ISSN 0749-4068. Retrieved 2022-09-14.
  3. ^ "Wins in Recount". The La Crosse Tribune. AP News. 1942-11-14. p. 8. ISSN 0745-9793. Retrieved 2022-11-02.
  4. ^ "Recount Defeats Negro Candidate". The Journal Times. 1942-11-15. p. 2. Retrieved 2022-11-02.
  5. ^ a b "Colbert, Cleveland H. Moland". The Abraham Lincoln Brigade Archives. 2019-12-10. Retrieved 2022-09-14.
  6. ^ a b Everett, Winter (1942-10-28). "Negro May Win State Assembly Seat". Wisconsin State Journal. p. 6. Retrieved 2022-11-02.
  7. ^ "Wisconsin Assembly Gets First Negro in 36 Years". The Weekly Review (newspaper), Birmingham, Alabama. 1942-11-14. p. 5. Retrieved 2022-11-02.
  8. ^ Trotter, Joe William (July 14, 1985). Black Milwaukee: The Making of an Industrial Proletariat, 1915-45. University of Illinois Press. ISBN 9780252060359 – via Google Books.
  9. ^ "Wisconsin Gets First Negro". Jackson Advocate. 1942-11-14. p. 2. ISSN 0047-1704. Retrieved 2022-11-02.
  10. ^ "Journal of Proceedings of the ... Session of the Wisconsin Legislature". Wisconsin Legislature Assembly. State Printer. July 14, 1943 – via Google Books.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: others (link)
  11. ^ "Would Pay Fight Cost Of Defeated Candidate". Newspapers.com. The Journal Times. June 17, 1943. p. 12. Retrieved 2022-09-14.
  12. ^ "Progressive Wins in Ballot Recount". Marshfield News-Herald. 1942-11-14. p. 2. Retrieved 2022-11-02.
  13. ^ "The Wisconsin Blue Book". Industrial Commission. July 14, 1944 – via Google Books.
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