Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Effective Altruism

you're invited - dec 4th 6pm PST wikiproject co-working

Myself and a friend are coworking on wikipedia stuff together. welcome to join! RSVP here: https://www.meetup.com/effective-altruism-bay-area/events/289639066/ Ruthgrace (talk) 07:12, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Citing EA Forum posts that are now listed on Google Scholar

There was some discussion earlier about whether we can use the EA Forum as a reliable source on Talk:Effective_altruism. In most cases, we can't. Forum posts are not generally considered reliable. However, some posts on the EA Forum are much more academic and have a limited form of peer review — this may have been just recently recognized by Google Scholar, which is now returning selected EA Forum posts as results. While WP:SCHOLARSHIP still discourages scholarly articles with low citation counts like even the best EA Forum posts have, there is still room for individual EA Forum posts to be arguably included as a reliable source per WP:SPS. If anyone needs to cite something and you honestly can't find a source other than an EA Forum post, please check to see if Google Scholar indexes that post. If they do, and if the author of the article has other publications listed by Google Scholar, then there might be a good case for citing that EA Forum post as a reliable source. Note that you checked these things when making your edit, and if a future editor tries to claim that the EA Forum doesn't count as a reliable source in that instance, you may explain why you believe it counts as an exception under the above argument. — Eric Herboso 15:48, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

That is helpful information. Personally, I don't think something happening to be picked up on Google Scholar is relevant (it just means some info in the HTML was changed), but it may be to others, so it seems worth bringing up. Jmill1806 (talk) 14:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

My 2¢ is that I think it’s probably irrelevant whether something is listed on google scholar or not. Like, I wrote a term paper for an undergrad course and posted it on my personal website, it got a mediocre grade, nobody ever cited it, and yet it wound up in Google Scholar for some reason. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Other than that, I agree with what Eric wrote—just go with WP:SPS. --Steve (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

How to handle the FTX scandal?

Some commentators have implicated the effective altruism movement in the FTX scandal. How should we approach covering this? For example, we could add discussions of EA and FTX to the FTX financial crisis article or to the Effective altruism or Longtermism one. However, I would like to be careful not to blow this discourse out of proportion. While I've definitely noticed a lot of people using the FTX scandal as an opportunity to criticize EA, including in published sources, that's probably because I follow discourse about EA a lot. It's been a small fraction of the discourse about the scandal overall, so I don't think it warrants more than a paragraph or two in each article. (For reference, Google searches for "crypto" and "ftx" have dwarfed searches for "effective altruism" in the last 30 days.) Qzekrom (she/her • talk) 07:33, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Update: I've added a section to FTX financial crisis. @Ruthgrace: Please take a look! Qzekrom (she/her • talk) 04:31, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

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