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Your message to franz-kafka
Hi thanks for your message. What I was trying to put across is the fact that it is unfair to say that Max Clifford is responsible for the fact that there are no gay footballers that is hardly NPOV, I was merely putting a few points in his defence which can surely be NPOV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Franz-kafka (talk • contribs) 18:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
- I understand - however, you can't put your own commentary there, it has to be sourced. RJASE1 Talk 18:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Reptile Palace Orchestra
Hello-
Thank you for notifying me regarding Reptile Palace Orchestra- unfortunately I didn't get the message until just now, after the process has apparently already taken place. I don't know if it's possible to contest this any longer, but I would like to point out that one of the criteria for notability of music related Wikipedia pages goes as follows:
"# Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such."
The page on Reptile Palace Orchestra stated the fact that a Sigtryggur Baldursson was in the band, who was also a member of the Sugarcubes, which is a notable band in its own right, not to mention that it basically launched Bjork's career.
Thanks. Acornwithwings 19:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Since the page was speedily deleted, it can be re-instated without a deletion review - I would just make sure the notability facts you just mentioned are established in the article so it doesn't get nominated again. RJASE1 Talk 19:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Cool, thx for your help. Acornwithwings 21:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
For your many, many page protection reports....
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For your many, many page protection reports, and keeping me very busy protecting the pages, I, Majorly, herby award you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Service. Keep up the good work! :) Majorly (o rly?) 00:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The Gomers
Hi RJASE1, I appreciate your help and suggestions and kind manner on my talk page. You rock!
--Bifftar 20:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
PS - my dad was stationed in iceland during the korean war - he was a cook in the USAF, i believe. iceland is truly an amazing place - near the army/af base the volcanic rock makes it look like the MOON! sounds like you are a flyer - wow.
Headpump ?
where did the Headpump page go ?
since Sigtryggur Baldursson was their drummer & recorded their only album with them, aren't they notable enough to be on Wiki ?
confused,
--Bifftar 14:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- The article was nominated for speedy deletion because it didn't claim notability and had no reliable sources. Keep in mind that just because the band contained a member who later became notable (either in their own right or as part of another ensemble) doesn't mean that the earlier band is notable on its own - the policy states that reliable sources are more likely to exist if the band "(c)ontains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." So it might be appropriate to make Headpump into a redirect page that points to Sigtryggur Baldursson, the same goes for Reptile Palace Orchestra.
- However, the central criteria is still "It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable." An article on either Headpump or RPO would need to meet these criteria for their own articles. I'm about to look at the sources you list above to see if any meet the reliability criteria. RJASE1 Talk 00:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
aside from the Siggi connection I would find it difficult to reliably source and reference Headpump as notable. Seems to me a redirect to Siggi would make sense.
The Reptile Palace Orchestra are different though - fairly sure i can show / help improve noteability there as they have multiple non-trivial reviews that just need to be researched...
--Bifftar 20:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I like your solution of adding Reptile & Headpump sections to the Siggi bio, RJASE1 - makes a lot of sense to me. Though I have to agree w. biffert - the RPO seem notable enough to stand alone
--Debsuls 23:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
External Links
I read your comment on External Links and would like to get some clarification as to which external links can be included and which links cannot. As discussed on the Talk page of the Magnet article there were eight links to commercial sites that contain information on magnetics. One user has chosen to remove two of those links from separate companies that appeared to contain valuable information similar to the other links. He has done this repeatedly without contribution to the Talk page. Based on a Wikipedia editor's recommendation, I opened a discussion related to External Links to gain consensus about which links can be included that contain useful information and what the process is to move the valuable content from these sites into the Wikipedia. Based on the four comments, all of the original sources were included in the External Links section with the intention that contributors could move this information into the Wikipedia and properly footnote them.
I have three questions: 1) why have you chosen to remove two of the eight External Links instead of all of them or none of them; 2) why have you not contributed to the Talk page about this issue; and 3) why did you refer to my edit as vandalism?
Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.205.10.4 (talk) 18:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
- Please read the policy on external links. Before deleting the links, I took a look at your contributions - they only consist of insertion of links to this particular company website (which sells magnets) on any site even tangentially relevant to magnetism. As you have made no other contributions besides inserting these links, and made no attempt to incorporate any of the referenced material into the articles, I can only conclude that you are spamming, which is considered a form of vandalism. Also, just because someone hasn't gotten around to removing other spam doesn't mean it's OK to include yours. RJASE1 Talk 23:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I just wanted to clarify a few things before I bowed out gracefully from participating in the Wikipedia.
I had originally thought that a number of sites had valuable information on magnetics and should be included. These sites are from a number of different companies (not a single company as you stated) and I included some links to this information as my first foray into the Wikipedia. I found these sites to be useful and did not promote their products on the content I linked to. Subsequently someone removed these links which annoyed me because they provided no explanation of why. This went back and forth in a fairly immature fashion for awhile before a very patient and understandinf editor, Mwanner, stepped in and advised me of the proper method for making additions to the Wikipedia.
All I really wanted was some consistency and information on why people were making decisions about the content I added. I don't really care which External Links are present nor do I have an agenda. But I believe a consistent policy should be followed. Since you are a higher level editor without the requirement to participate in the democratic processes of the Discussion Pages, I'd suggest all external links currently in the article originating from commercial entities be removed based on the information you provided.
I realize that Wikipedia has a spamming problem and I understand the reason for your brusque approach but it does have the effect of putting off newcomers. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia's editing process and oversight seem to be far to capricious for me. Best of luck in your endeavors.
- If you say you're not associated with the company, I believe you. You're right in that I was brusque - I should probably report myself for violation of this guideline. Think I've spent too much time lately on recent changes patrol; you get to develop a siege mentality after a while - it seems like there are millions of people determined to add profanity, advertising, and pictures of their own genitalia to Wikipedia. Spam has been a particular problem lately, with some massive attacks from people in places like Russia and Vietnam using multiple computers and open proxies to put advertising links in articles. Almost as bad are the small-time spammers pushing their crap on E-Bay or their home-based business, they're harder to spot.
- It's often difficult to obtain consensus on the talk pages for adding links - if the only thing you add is links, you look like a spammer, like the article that I mentioned above states. What I would strongly encourage that you do (if you decide to stick with us despite my slapping you) is to edit the articles to include new facts from the websites you mention, and then cite the websites as a source.
- If you decide to stick with us, don't hesitate to ask me for help. RJASE1 Talk 02:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
AIV entry
The user you reported to AIV only has one edit and no talk page warnings.Rlevse 03:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, nevermind, now appears he's a sockpuppet.Rlevse 03:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- that's okay.Rlevse 03:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Re:Hang in there
Thanks for the support. I guess everyone reaches a snapping point, and sometimes it is percipitated by the most mundane of things. I guess my problem is I see so much potential in this project (wikipedia as a whole) but it is confounded by what I feel are moronic policies, chief among those the "anyone can edit" policy (for instance, why can anyone edit my user page? Why can an anonymous IP edit an FA article, etc), and people with agendas to push who have confused this with a blog. I think the military history project has the most potential - articles about the military, esp. the US military, written by people with military backgrounds, but stripped of the rah-rah, zero faults mentality of official military web pages. What I'm saying is I keep coming up on edits made by America-bashers to US history articles, material deleted by people who want nothing bad at all written about the military, conspiracy theorists inserting garbage, people of whatever nationality adding language demonizing another nationality (particularly the ones I listed on my user page), clueless edits by people who should stick to writing about non-military topics, the list goes on and on. When you have 4000 pages on your watchlist, you see this happens on a vast scale, and Lord knows how much across all the WPMILHIST articles (30,000 at last count) and wikipedia as a whole. Sure, we can patrol it, but this is volunteer work. After spending 4 hours one morning on a weekend cleaning up and repairing this kind of stuff for free, I just said to myself "WTF am I doing? It's a beautiful day in Japan, the sun is out, I have a beautiful girlfriend, and I'm sitting here taking swear words out of a military history article." I think I just need to get away from this for a while and reconnect with the world a bit.--Nobunaga24 00:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
CSD A7 on web radio stations
May I propose, instead of a mass delete of web radio articles, to start a discussion on what, if anything, makes a web radio station notable? Haikupoet 02:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry if it looks like I'm doing a mass delete - ran across this category and it was chock-full of spam. I think the criteria is already pretty plain in WP:WEB - did you have something different in mind for Internet radio? I'm open to ideas... RJASE1 Talk 02:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, as a stopgap I'd say put them through the regular AfD process instead of speedying them. The other thing is that notability for web radio stations is rather in the same vein as podcasts -- very difficult to ascertain outside of a few specific venues such as Shoutcast and Live365 listings or tuning services like iTunes. (I have been told, however, on WP:DRV, that iTunes is not a reliable indicator of what makes a web radio station notable, so I don't know.) I'd say an open discussion linked from the AfD page, however you'd do that. And btw, I agree -- there's a lot of spam there. At the very least a lot of articles need cleaning up. Haikupoet 02:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. I already cleaned out the worst offenders from the 'Internet Radio' cat and was just going back on a second look through the ones that were borderline or unsourced. I'm definitely willing to participate in a discussion on a new standard - in the meantime, I'll leave this category alone and move on to the blog category, which looks in even worse shape. RJASE1 Talk 02:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd suggest you use WP:PROD instead of speedy deletion on articles of borderline notability that are not relatively new. That avoids overloading the speedy category and the pages still get dealt with in a timely fashion. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 12:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Will do. RJASE1 Talk 13:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd suggest you use WP:PROD instead of speedy deletion on articles of borderline notability that are not relatively new. That avoids overloading the speedy category and the pages still get dealt with in a timely fashion. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 12:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. I already cleaned out the worst offenders from the 'Internet Radio' cat and was just going back on a second look through the ones that were borderline or unsourced. I'm definitely willing to participate in a discussion on a new standard - in the meantime, I'll leave this category alone and move on to the blog category, which looks in even worse shape. RJASE1 Talk 02:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, as a stopgap I'd say put them through the regular AfD process instead of speedying them. The other thing is that notability for web radio stations is rather in the same vein as podcasts -- very difficult to ascertain outside of a few specific venues such as Shoutcast and Live365 listings or tuning services like iTunes. (I have been told, however, on WP:DRV, that iTunes is not a reliable indicator of what makes a web radio station notable, so I don't know.) I'd say an open discussion linked from the AfD page, however you'd do that. And btw, I agree -- there's a lot of spam there. At the very least a lot of articles need cleaning up. Haikupoet 02:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I have restored this article that you requested speedy deletion of as the result of a recent AfD was keep. You should check whether an article has previously been to AfD first before tagging for speedy deletion, if you still think an article should be deleted then you should nominate via AfD. Gnangarra 12:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Normally I do check the discussion, history, and all the links - my brain must have taken a vacation for a few seconds there. Sorry about that. RJASE1 Talk 13:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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Delation Review: Off The Chart Radio
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Off The Chart Radio. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Leighlast 18:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Musicovery
It seems a overly rash on Wikipedia's part to subject the Musicovery article to speedy deletion. Perhaps it may not be as widely known as its competitors Pandora and last.fm, but it is certainly notable. First of all, please see the links on the archived article page, they direct the reader to external reviews of the Musicovery service. Secondly, a recent Google query for "Musicovery" led to 496,000 results returned. Thirdly, the article highlights the novel "mood map" feature of the Musicovery service, which is found on no other Internet radio or music recommendation service. I believe that the company, though small, is well-positioned as a competitor within the Internet radio market. So clearly Musicovery is not "unremarkable" as noted in the deletion tag. Please consider reinstating the Musicovery article.
Waterguzzler 18:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Since the article was speedily deleted and was not the subject of an AfD, it can be recreated. Just please be sure to demonstrate in the article that it meets the notability criteria of WP:WEB and include reliable sources in the article. Give me a heads-up when you're ready on what you've got and I can give my opinion. (I should state I'm not an administrator, just an editor - but I'm willing to help.) By the way, if you are associated with Musicovery, you probably shouldn't write the article per this policy. If you're not associated with them, excuse the assumption. RJASE1 Talk 18:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable, thanks. Is there a backup archive of the article that I can find so that I don't have to rewrite from scratch? Also, since I am not associated with Musicovery, I would be happy to include a "criticisms" section that others have leveled against Musicovery. Would this enhance the neutrality of the article? Waterguzzler 19:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- I tried looking in the Google cache, didn't see it - you might try looking in the caches of some of the other search engines. RJASE1 Talk 19:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, and on the criticisms thing - that's fine, but everything has to be sourced. RJASE1 Talk 19:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
RE: 21st Century Holding Company
I didn't create that. - User:Patricknoddy/sig 22:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure why I thought you did, now that the article's been deleted and I can't check the history. Maybe you made an edit somewhere and it was at the bottom of the page, with earlier results not showing...anyway, sorry about the misunderstanding. RJASE1 Talk 22:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Nanotechnology
I congratulate you on your catch of the page for the organization & its founders. Turns out they are an advocacy group with a decided POV, & their publications are used as examples or irresponsible scientific information provision by courses in several universities. I removed the prod, because probably the one article that should stay is the one on the organization, rewritten thoroughly to eliminate linkspam and COI. The others are about to become redirects, which can be done as an ordinary edit. I like to flatter myself that I can detect this sort of thing, but I missed these. I'll clean it up over the weekend. DGG 04:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
After finding a lack of published information for this website despite its high traffic, I removed the {{hangon}} tag and merged some information into LiveJournal. What do you think about #REDIRECT [[LiveJournal#Other sites running the LiveJournal engine]] instead of a speedy delete? --Strangerer (Talk) 05:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds fine to me. RJASE1 Talk 13:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
ABOUT DELETING HALF THE ENCYCLOPEDIA
Please stop putting articles up for deletion. If I find the sources and add a bit more info you have no right to delete them - particularly Abdul Rahman Al-Athel - I have added sources and unorpahned -provide five links from five different articles. I'll find the links and trty to improve a little Ernst Stavro Blofeld "I've been expecting you" 12:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I have added details to Aaron Jones and links. Look if you are going to delete this you may as well delete the acclaimed band he has been succesfuol in Old Blind Dogs and anything else to. Why not just request that I add sources and detail using the "expand tag" rather than just deleting everything. Deletion nomination is a tiresome process and I would rather find information and sources to make them into better articles rather than just wipe it all out. Some of those Dansih actors were notable too Ernst Stavro Blofeld "I've been expecting you" 13:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I think by now I am well aware of what wikipedia is or what wikipedia is not so try not to patronize me as if I don't know by adding those guidelines. Yes they do deserve articles on wikipedia but I do agree with you that some of them need improving into better articles. Why not just tell me the articles that I need to add to and imporve personally rather than giving me many repeaated messages in my talk page? I appreciate your efforts and concern to filter the encyclopedia but most of those tagged are notable articles - some of them have articles on Norwegian wikipedia -Wikipedia needs to be less Anglo-centric and look at the world from different viewpoints and societies. Ernst Stavro Blofeld "I've been expecting you" 13:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if it looked like I was patronizing you with repeated messages - it was unintentional. I was working through the orphaned stubs starting with 'A' and it just happened that there were a bunch in sequence that you had created. You're right, what I should have done is just modified the first message I left you.
- The articles were very short stubs, had few or no incoming links, and no sources or claims for notability, which made them candidates for deletion per WP:CSD. I want to emphasize that I didn't actually delete anything, I just put a recommendation on the page. There's nothing stopping anyone from removing the prod tags if they address the concerns.RJASE1 Talk 14:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I also came here because I noticed you were nominating an awful lot of articles for deletion. It's a good idea to take a little time and see if you can improve the article yourself before making an AfD nom. Case in point: a quick Google search shows plenty of reliable sources for World Transhumanist Association, which could be used to improve the article. Taking steps like this will avoid much argument. Aelffin 17:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice. RJASE1 Talk 17:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
As per Wikipedia:Notability (music)
"Important note: Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion."
Also; "For performers outside of mass media traditions" #5 is "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture."
Thanks, Nagelfar 17:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- When I nominated it, it wasn't because it failed the notability guidelines, it was because it failed to even claim notability. RJASE1 Talk 17:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- That is not the case; c.f. Despite such limited output, the band has gained much underground clout and popularity, much as their contemporary Charles Bronson has.. Regards, Nagelfar 17:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Eh, OK - I guess that's a notability claim. I put it up for AfD so we'll let the community decide. RJASE1 Talk 17:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose it is a little vague. Maybe I should note that the drummer from Frodus is in it rather than just linking without saying anything. Regards, Nagelfar 17:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think that's a good idea - the page can then be redirected to the drummer's page and its information included in a section there. I'll modify the AfD nomination. RJASE1 Talk 17:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose it is a little vague. Maybe I should note that the drummer from Frodus is in it rather than just linking without saying anything. Regards, Nagelfar 17:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Eh, OK - I guess that's a notability claim. I put it up for AfD so we'll let the community decide. RJASE1 Talk 17:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- That is not the case; c.f. Despite such limited output, the band has gained much underground clout and popularity, much as their contemporary Charles Bronson has.. Regards, Nagelfar 17:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
clarification
What do you mean when you say "No sources for notability of publication"? That is has not been cited in scholarly works? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Halle akala (talk • contribs) 20:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
Radio Free America
You recently left an unreferenced tag on this page. I originally started it as a vanity page before Wikipedia started cracking down on that stuff. All of the things listed could be easily referenced, but for legal reasons, I am no longer going to use the name anyway. I would suggest that the article get put on the fast track for deletion as it currently stands. - Agentseven 23:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Who are you to try and delete a page on a world famous photogrpaher and artist?
"Non-notable author, books are self-published or from vanity presses." TO HAVE A PAGE REMOVED FOR THE CITED REASON, IS IGNORANT OF THE ARTISTS WORK. Glen E. Friedman's books and work are respected around the world, As well as his opinions, why would you try to delete the page? WHO ARE YOU to say factual information should be deleted? Stay away from the page if you don't like what he does, don't try to have it deleted. Is this some sort of political assasination you are trying to make?
I also just noticed you tried to remove a book entry for FUCK YOU HEROES? what gives you any right to do this? this is a book that has sold tens of thousands of copies world wide, why would you try to have this perfectly written wiki entry removed?
I should look into your status as an editor being revoked!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.161.111.109 (talk) 06:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
I didn't vandalize the "Intersexuality" entry
What did I do wrong? I noticed that someone had listed Oprah Winfrey on the "Intersexuality" entry, calling her a "noted bitch" and I removed that reference. I figured it was an attack on her. Why am I now accused of "vandalism"? Someone else was the vandal, not me. That's the first time I tried make any contribution to Wikipedia - and now it will be my last. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.131.151.106 (talk) 12:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
Karol Sheinin
- Please do not delete the Karol Sheinin entry without further input.
- If you'll scroll down to the first set of links you'll notice that there is a second set of articles drawn from large, well-known DT press organs, e.g. The New York Observer, The Wall Street Journal, The Boston Globe, which quote her or explore her blog in some detail below those external links. Ruthfulbarbarity 01:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- OK, feel free to remove the prod tag for now - I'm tied up with something else right now but will come back later and see what can be done to source the article with inline citations - unless you want to get started with it. RJASE1 Talk 01:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll see what I can do. Ruthfulbarbarity 04:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Links
I'll go remove them... i didn't realize they violated wilkipedia guidlines.
- They've already been removed. RJASE1 Talk 03:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I am adding extremely useful and relevant information to the page. People care about the achievements. Please do not delete my inforfmation.
- Your links are inappropriate - please read WP:EL. RJASE1 Talk 05:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Achievements aren't spam
I added a link to the achievements in an Xbox 360 game, Zegapain XOR. You removed it, claiming it was spam. Many people care about achievements in games, and would benefit from links pointing them to lists that show the achievements. I am merely trying to help the community benefit.