Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William (footballer, born 1982)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🎉 (HAPPY 2023) 07:15, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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The subject does not meet Wikipedia notability standards based on the cited references. If there are other opinions, please share here.JRed176 (talk) 21:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC) - WP:SOCKSTRIKE - Beccaynr (talk) 01:19, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Brazil. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:21, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Just because the article is a stub doesn't mean this isn't a notable footballer, he played fully professional football for a few Portuguese Premier League clubs including F.C. Paços de Ferreira. soccerway stats. Sources should be there for this, a guy with this kind of career should have sources. I see it stats on soccerway he won the Copa Rio, looks like a smaller tournament, sources for that? I was having a look, it does seem tough to find sources know. Govvy (talk) 15:16, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Delete - no evidence of notability. I agree there should be sources, but I can't find any. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:22, 12 January 2023 (UTC)- @GiantSnowman: searched his full name and found something of a scandal around his signing with FC Anzhi Makhachkala [1] [2]. "Anzhi Makhachkala's Europa League bonuses at risk over William transfer" - Anzhi's conduct in signing Brazilian forward William Arthur Conceicao dos Santos in April 2010 was "unethical and unlawful," Onsoccer director Antonio Araujo said in a written statement to the Associated Press. William spent less than one month as an Anzhi player before returning to Portugal when officials ordered him from the team hotel in Moscow at 3 a.m. before a match, according to a ruling when CAS first judged the dispute last year. "We had no other choice than (recourse) to the Swiss courts in order to freeze the monies that Anzhi is entitled to receive from UEFA, via the Russian Football Association," Araujo said. Also about (not) joining Romanian Astra Ploiesti [3] [4]. Also found some more mentions with other teammates. No idea whats this about: [5] I'm sure there's more sources and offline ones too. Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think there's enough for me to keep, but with the nominator being a sock I cannot support deletion anymore either. GiantSnowman 19:21, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- @GiantSnowman: searched his full name and found something of a scandal around his signing with FC Anzhi Makhachkala [1] [2]. "Anzhi Makhachkala's Europa League bonuses at risk over William transfer" - Anzhi's conduct in signing Brazilian forward William Arthur Conceicao dos Santos in April 2010 was "unethical and unlawful," Onsoccer director Antonio Araujo said in a written statement to the Associated Press. William spent less than one month as an Anzhi player before returning to Portugal when officials ordered him from the team hotel in Moscow at 3 a.m. before a match, according to a ruling when CAS first judged the dispute last year. "We had no other choice than (recourse) to the Swiss courts in order to freeze the monies that Anzhi is entitled to receive from UEFA, via the Russian Football Association," Araujo said. Also about (not) joining Romanian Astra Ploiesti [3] [4]. Also found some more mentions with other teammates. No idea whats this about: [5] I'm sure there's more sources and offline ones too. Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Per above, mostly about the Anzhi case. Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:57, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - the Anzhi references provide GNG. But also, this should be a procedural keep because it was nominated by a Sock. Nfitz (talk) 18:16, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that we should not entertain nominations started by socks and therefore close this. If someone in good standing opens up a 2nd nomination following a WP:BEFORE, that should be permitted. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:52, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I don't think that we can close this early because the editor made this nomination before being blocked, obviously. Therefore it can't be speedily ended (this is my interpretation of this. We must wait until it's been 7 days since the nomination was made. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that we should not entertain nominations started by socks and therefore close this. If someone in good standing opens up a 2nd nomination following a WP:BEFORE, that should be permitted. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:52, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Anzhi reference.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
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