Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BIG Star Entertainment Awards

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is a consensus based on multiple reliable sources that the subject is notable.Rlendog (talk) 21:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BIG Star Entertainment Awards

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No notability established for the awards. I was unable to find a single reliable source for them, and the awards are not decided by judges, but rather are voted by any user with a facebook account, if I am not mistaken, and the ones with a majority vote secure the winner. They have not been given every year, after establishment. X.One ^SOS 08:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Bollywood Hungama is considered as a reliable source. Completely-viewer-based-award cant be a reason for deletion. Indian Idol and many shows run on votes. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You missed out my other points. They are not notable. There are separate pages for the categories of the awards, and they are all unsourced. They are not given every year, after start and there are only three reliable sources I could find, 1, 2, 3. How can these be enough to sustain the article? The first one gives a list of 5 awards won by Dabangg, and they can or are already mentioned in the List of accolades received by Dabangg article, and the second and third do not mention any specific award, but only some minor details. That is certainly not enough for this article, and definitely not enough for keeping separate award pages for each category. X.One ^SOS 16:28, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If your concern is for separate categorywise pages, you can propose merger of all these pages into the one that you have proposed to delete. I will agree to that merger. They started in 2010. They were given in 2010 & 2011. That means they are given every year. All the three sources you have cited are reliable (you too agree with that) and are independent. 3 are sufficient! (With tons of filmy awards alredy existing, you should not expect any book to be written on this particular award. Give it some time.)
Important point: The third reference you gave (& also what article says) states that these awards are given to personalities in movies, music, television and sports. With such a unique blend and variety, this page should definitely be a Keep Keep. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 14:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You do not give "time" for notability to create itself. If the awards are not notable, they should not be here. The three sources indicate trivial coverage. X.One ^SOS 14:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh goodness! They are given only two times till now. How much coverage do you want? All the 3 references you gave are fully for this event itself. They are not like some passing mention of these awards. And you cant be sure that these are the only references. Look! I found one more independent news reference which focuses on these awards. Also found another reference that says "According to TAM, the award ceremony generated the highest TRP of 4.63 on December 31, 2011 among all GECs in the time slot of 10 pm to 12:30 am." Does the fact that majority of television audiences chose to watch this show make it notable enough? -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 14:42, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, chill! Those two did not show up on the news search, so I assumed that the awards were not notable. Issue settled. But still the others need to be merged with this one. X.One ^SOS 15:41, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! So what happens now? Do you withdraw and then the AfD closes or does it still remain open for others to comment? -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 16:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I can withdraw it, but this will come to a close 7 days from now, and I doubt if anyone else will be interested to comment, and if they want to, I cannot object. X.One ^SOS 11:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: If you are really caring about the notability, Google will surely help you out. -- Karthik Nadar 09:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Did you look up at my post? The only three useful sources available from that search are the ones I mentioned, and they are not enough to sustain the article. X.One ^SOS 09:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, just saw! Those all three sources are heavy reliable sources. I don't think there is need for deleting the article. The award is a new one, just kicked off few years back. Will receive quite a lot of notability soon. -- Karthik Nadar 09:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And when it does, we can create it. Starting off a few years back, and having just 3 reliable sources with little info in the topic is certainly a sign that this article is not notable. X.One ^SOS 09:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recreate?! I dont think this is a good idea. Some fan is gonna get up few weeks from now & recreate it. Its better to use this article itself and develop and clean it. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce (talk | contribs) 02:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Delete this for what reason? Non-notability? In that case, even the 6th Asian Film Awards shouldn't be there, but contrarily there is a page for every AFA. And they are also very new. I doubt that this award should fall under the axe. They are important but completely viewer-based awards, and hence may be less famous than the panel-based awards, but that does not necessitate their lack of notability. Actually, to whoever created this article, a big thank you from my side. ~*~Ankit Bhatt~*~ 13:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but there is a page called WP:GNG. Subjects which are not notable should not have their articles, no doubt on that. If you feel the 6th Asian Film Awards is not notable, you may tag it with WP:AFD. You noticed what one user has said "Will receive quite a lot of notability soon." That is clear enough. X.One ^SOS 13:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~So far, no one has addressed the notability concern with respect to Wikipedian guidelines like WP:NOTE. The closing person, should take note of this.~~ Issue has been addressed, and notability proved. X.One ^SOS 13:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Some references :
- The Hindu Businesss Online mentions BIG STAR Entertainment awards in a press release regarding a statutory disclosure to the Stock Exchange.
- An account of the 2nd Awards ceremony has been showcased in bollycric.in, a film news portfolio. Enough big names in Indian cinema attended to make it notable. Here is another [1].
- Many more refs online.

Imo, the event is genuine, though yet to become very widely familiar, sponsored as a serious business venture by the owners, a leading Industrial House of the country and accepted by the Bollywood Film Industry. Notable. AshLin (talk) 16:57, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.