Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Scottish football clubs in the FA Cup
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The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 06:14, 22 June 2008 [1].
This is a complete record of all appearances by Scottish clubs in the FA Cup, England's premier knockout (elimination) football competition. Let me know what you think....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "Although the Cup is organised by The Football Association, the governing body of the sport in England, and in the modern era is open only to clubs playing in FA-affiliated leagues," → "Although the Cup is organised by The Football Association, the governing body of the sport in England, and is open only to clubs playing in FA-affiliated leagues in the modern era,"? So that it's "is organised... is open"
- "The Glasgow team were by far the dominant force in Scottish football, to the extent that no other team had even managed to score a goal against them, but at the time there was no cup competition in Scotland for them to enter." — Doesn't read very well. Rephrase suggested.
Gary King (talk) 07:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Rewrote both bits ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment
- Do Gretna count as a Scottish club? They were members of the FA at that time, not the SFA. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 08:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- So were Queen's Park in the 1870s. The key fact is that they are/were geographically based in Scotland as opposed to England....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm not sure that "The Football Club History Database" is a reliable source. Do you know if they have any reputation for fact-checking or that they fit any other qualities of WP:RS? Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 01:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I can vouch for the reliabilty of FCHD, which is regarded as reliable by WP:FOOTBALL. For further information see http://www.fchd.btinternet.co.uk/sources.htm, or ask the webmaster, who is an active Wikipedian (User:Richard Rundle). Oldelpaso (talk) 10:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - My sole concern now having been addressed, I support this list. Good job with it! Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 14:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Interesting list, good stuff. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "After this date"—A year's not a date. Why not "Since then,"?
- "Reached 2nd round but then withdrew"—but? and. Remove "then". I presume they didn't play the second round, but just reached it.
- Cr 6: Columns two and three are very wide; can you force them to be narrower?
Tell me, is this Sports Illustrated site reliable and sufficiently authoritative? Where do their authors get their info from? Why not go to the original sources/databases that they use?Checked with someone else: yes, authoritative. TONY (talk) 08:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All points addressed, I think........... ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
- "...in FA-affiliated leagues in the modern era..." - this doesn't make it clear that it generally excludes Scottish clubs right now.
- "...primarily in its early years...." sorry to be uberpicky but it's not clear whether "its" refers to the competition or Scotland...!
- " north of the border " - I know what you mean, and I like the prose, but it's got to be clear what we're talking about here for non-UK, non-football experts..
- I'd be tempted to say Gretna F.C. the first time since you've got Gretna pipelinked twice in consecutive sentences - I'm always wary about that kind of thing.
- Last sentence in the lead uses [18] twice. Don't bother.
- On my 1280 px wide screen, I could reduce the Season, Round, Club, and Ref cols to expand the Notes col so it doesn't creep over to two lines. See if it works?
- BBC link could be BBC Sport (as publisher). Similarly, while not mandated, you could link things like Sport Illustrated too.
- Ask Albert. How cool. I worked with Albert's son for a while. His dad's a legend. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's it from me. Feel free to ignore because mostly it's personal pref... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done, I think. Upon re-reading the bit about QP I find that no team at all had scored a goal against them. As they might have already played some English teams (it doesn't say) I just removed the qualifier about "north of the border"..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. All my comments / concerns were dealt with at the PR stage. Fits the FLC criteria. Peanut4 (talk) 20:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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