Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lavora Barnes (2nd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Enos733 (talk) 02:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
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Previously deleted. Does not pass WP:NPOL as she hasn't held state-wide public office, at the very least. Bedivere (talk) 21:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, meets WP:GNG, notable state party chair. Andre🚐 22:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- This person, notable primarily as the chair of a state-level political party is not an automatic WP:NPOL pass, and the article isn't referenced well enough to get them over WP:GNG. This is not what it takes to make a political operative notable enough for an encyclopedia article. See also previous nomination. Not much has changed ever since. --Bedivere (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- A few things have indeed changed since the last nomination which was 5 years ago. She became state party chair in 2019. She is also notable as the first black woman in the role and received WP:SIGCOV, she is also notable for being a Clinton press secretary and working in his administration, and as a state director for Obama, and several other positions that have attestation in RS. Andre🚐 22:43, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- This person, notable primarily as the chair of a state-level political party is not an automatic WP:NPOL pass, and the article isn't referenced well enough to get them over WP:GNG. This is not what it takes to make a political operative notable enough for an encyclopedia article. See also previous nomination. Not much has changed ever since. --Bedivere (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, other state party chairs have been deemed notable, she should be too Bwabwa7 (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Please read WP:POLOUTCOMES. She's not inherently notable for being a local state party chair. Bedivere (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, and Michigan. Shellwood (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - while a state chairperson isn't automatically notable, they can be considered notable if there is evidence. Barnes is in the news again after a successful mid-term election season in 2022. Bearian (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep meets notability — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.243.255.179 (talk) 15:44, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep for passing WP:GNG and thus not needing to pass WP:NPOL. Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:31, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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