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Claim of no evidence of persistent infection

This article cites reference #3 to say "Despite numerous studies, there is no evidence that symptoms associated with CLD are caused by any persistent infection." ... however, this is a July 2010 reference and there have been studies since then to support the notion of persistent infection in some. For example,

Persistent Borrelia Infection in Patients with Ongoing Symptoms of Lyme Disease [1] (2018) "Motile spirochetes identified histopathologically as Borrelia were detected in culture specimens, and these spirochetes were genetically identified as Borrelia burgdorferi by three distinct polymerase chain reaction (PCR)-based approaches"

Variable manifestations, diverse seroreactivity and post-treatment persistence in non-human primates exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi by tick feeding [2] (2017)

"In addition, we observed evidence of persistent, intact, metabolically-active B. burgdorferi after antibiotic treatment of disseminated infection"

I don't usually edit WikiPedia but thought this should be brought to attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aniese82 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Junk Middelveen sources, as discussed here ad nauseam over the years. Alexbrn (talk) 03:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those are actual, proper studies. What exactly makes them "junk sources" and what makes you more konwledgeable than all the scientists involved in those studies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.55.24 (talk) 14:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review WP:RS, WP:MEDRS and read the article (focusing on occurrences of the word group). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting to change the end of the sentence in the first paragraph "...or with post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome, a set of lingering symptoms which may persist after successful treatment of infection with Lyme bacteria."

to reflect the most current CDC definition of Post Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome.

"...or with post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome, a set of lingering symptoms the CDC defines as "pain, fatigue, or difficulty thinking that lasts for more than 6 months" after treatment of infection with Lyme bacteria. The cause of PTLDS is "not known" according to the CDC. ^[1] DubiousPuffery (talk) 20:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases (NCEZID), Division of Vector-Borne Diseases (DVBD), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2007-05-14). "Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome". Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Retrieved 2022-08-29.

Not done: that is too much detail for the lead of an unrelated article. PTLDS is already discussed at Lyme disease, a hatnote to which exists on this article. Madeline (part of me) 18:32, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Media Section Sources

Hola User:ScienceFlyer. Let's hash this out. What's the problem with my addition? I cited the same reviewer for Under Our Skin. If his authority is sufficient for one movie, then why is it not for another? I'm all for qualified medical professionals giving medical advice but this is a review in the media section. Perhaps we can focus on the review's non-medical aspect? (WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Both of the films in the Media section have their own articles. The content is UNDUE here, and it's doubtful that all of that content even belongs in the film articles. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:39, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to get rid of the media section? WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 17:17, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NEJM Source

@User:ScienceFlyer, @User:SandyGeorgia I want to draw your attention to the citation below. It is being used to describe Chronic Lyme Disease as a fraud. However the article does not bear out such an acquisition.

Feder, HM; Johnson, BJB; O'Connell, S; et al. (October 2007). "A Critical Appraisal of "Chronic Lyme Disease"". NEJM. 357 (14): 1422–30. doi:10.1056/NEJMra072023. PMID 17914043.

[1] National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases (NCEZID), Division of Vector-Borne Diseases (DVBD), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2007-05-14). "Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome". Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Retrieved 2022-08-29.

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