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AfC Drafts NOTE: To be fair to all submitters I do not review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random...

Current Backlog: 1,306 pending submissions

 

I need assistance with one of my articles and would appreciate it if you will listen to my concerns.

Dear @KylieTastic I've been working on an article for the past four months and have continuously submitting it as an Afc draft. First and foremost, it has taken far too long to receive an update on the article, which is really inconvenient. I submitted everything again using a different account in the hopes of getting approval, but it still didn't work.

I've already edited it more than 50 times, and I think that's enough. It's disheartening to see a page like Wikipedia push your patience to the limit, and as a result, the effort and time of many people is wasted as a result of the backlog and decline of articles. And when you resubmit it with so much research or improvement, it gets struck for eternity till the draft article is deleted.

I simply want you to look at it and let me know if there are any improvements that need to be made, or you may change it yourself, and if you are convinced, it would be wonderful if you could move this article to the main space.

Thank you for listening; I will wait for your response, brother. Best regards, @Harry S Truman72

The link of the article is provided below :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Noida_International_University Harry S Truman72 (talk) 12:40, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Harry S Truman72 firstly using multiple accounts is not allowed, also why start a new one, was the last one blocked? I see no evidence in the logs of this being previously submitted, I can see that Noida International University was deleted from mainspace May 9, 2023 as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". And it looks likely your socking with another account ApexLegends189 and the article has been tagged for deletion by an admin I trust completely so I won't be looking further at this. KylieTastic (talk) 14:04, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey listen brother, first and foremost, I apologised since I was worried and didn't want my primary account to be affected as it was written in that do not delete this notice from pages that you have created yourself, which is why. Please don't do this brother, I left a message so I could improve and learn but by doing this you will negatively impact me and destroy my efforts and hope.. give me atleast a chance and warning that what is wrong and needs to be improved this is not the way you don't know how much i have gone through due to all of this...And i will reply to each and every query of yours but at first give me an opportunity to do so. Harry S Truman72 (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Harry S Truman72 as an admin has tagged Draft:Noida International University for deletion there is nothing I can do. Once tagged it is an admin issue and I am not one. You can contest the tag with the big blue button that says "Contest this speedy deletion". Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:31, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anani Mohamed

Hi KylieTastic, regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anani_Mohamed, what more citing is necessary? This player's career and achievements are outlined in all sources. Can you please assist why this page continues being deleted? Globalsoccerhero (talk) 16:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:REFB to understand how to properly add references. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:47, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Globalsoccerhero when I declined you one source. "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). Your new sources are basically just listings and passing mentions and lack depth of coverage of the subject. Such sources are fine as references to verify claims but do not help show notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:20, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. What would be an example of an article with significant coverage of football players? Some of the sources show his team, accomplishments, etc...not sure what other articles can be produced. Globalsoccerhero (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The references need to show significant coverage. Please read and understand WP:SIGCOV. Please read and understand all of the links that have been provided to you, instead of asking questions whose answers are in those links. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Citations

Hi KylieTastic, thank you for helping me format so many citations properly on my new article List of graduate student employee unions! However, some of the links are now broken. Could you please fix the links that used to work? Thanks very much!! I really appreciate your help. (I've also added this name note to the Talk page of the article, in case it reaches you first.) AJVincelli (talk) 16:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi AJVincelli, I took a quick look and did not see anything obvious that was broke (but I did see the tool had not done the best job with things that need a login) - was there anything specific? I'll have another look tomorrow when I have more time. KylieTastic (talk) 20:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed, I think it's mainly the Facebook and Instagram citations. Can those be fixed with your tool, or reverted back to the original web addresses? I can go through the other citations and fix things like #66 (I have no idea what those superscripts are), #70 has no title, #135 (it just says HOME, which isn't very descriptive lol), etc. Thank you!!! AJVincelli (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi AJVincelli, I've been though the links, and fixed up some. We generally do not like social media links as they are generally unreliable and so I have removed extras. Ideally we would have none, but we should have no more than one per item. There are a couple of dead links I;ve marked inline and a file just uploaded to a google drive account is also not valid. Also several sites have invalid https certificates which hardly makes them look like trustworthy sites! As the issues I found are now marked inline I did remove the "Citations broken" tag from the top as these "there are problems somewhere in this article" tags are not very helpful to readers or editors trying to improve. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @KylieTastic, thank you so much for reviewing the citations! Yes, I’m also talking to another person about the dubious citations (on the article’s Talk page), and I definitely have more to learn. I’m reading up on the Wiki rules and regs, and I’m doubtful that the article citations in their current form are appropriate. I’ll be working on somehow fixing this asap. If you have any ideas, please let me know! Thanks very much again. AJVincelli (talk) 03:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Crunchbase as a valid source

Hey KylieTastic,

Since I'm not an expert with Wikipedia and I don't want to reverse your edit, I wanted to ask you about Crunchbase here regarding the Vitadao draft article.

I know that Crunchbase is not considered as a valid source (Wikipedia warned me when I added it). But I was under impression the link I posted would be ok:

"In the 2019 RfC, there was consensus to deprecate Crunchbase, but also to continue allowing external links to the website. A significant proportion of Crunchbase's data is user-generated content."

But the article seems to be part of Crunchbase News written by editors and not UGC: https://news.crunchbase.com/

https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/pharmaceuticals-blockchain-crypto-web3-pfizer-pfe/

Anyway, I understand it might still not be a good source, I understand of course :)

@Keepx Keepx (talk) 17:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Keepx, any source that is designated as "deprecated" by community consensus is considered not valid in almost all cases (see WP:DEPREC), such sources can be found at the list at WP:RSPSOURCES. My understanding is that this applies to the news side as well but I agree it is not clearly stated. Some 'news' article I've seen used as sources on it are clearly based on press releases, churnalism. Yes it is not direct user-generated content but looked down on and thus not a good as a reliable source. There are old discussions on the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard with no clear outcome. The article in question also uses a lot of direct quotes so not independent and also quotes from "Crunchbase data" (if only trivially) so based on depreciated sources. Note it is also about blockchain which is under "General sanctions" see Wikipedia:General sanctions/Blockchain and cryptocurrencies so generally it is expected for such articles to use good sources - although I see little to worry about in your article in that sense - unlike the endless blockchain/cryptocurrency spam that is submitted. Also the source appeared to be redundant as used in the same place as other sources (although I did not cross check every claim). So as the article was already sent to draft as not being ready I would concentrate on not using any doubtful sources. At the moment, without doing a full review, it appears to reply heavily on primary sources which does not help notability. Hope that helps. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:58, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the detailed answer!
    @Keepx Keepx (talk) 18:32, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for reverting me!

No, seriously! I accidentally added the wrong file name (File:Encyclopedia Dramatica logo.svg instead of File:Encyclopædia dramatica logo.svg), and I wouldn't have noticed it if you hasn't reverted me! QuickQuokka [⁠talkcontribs] 11:20, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you..

..for reviewing my article so fast (twice!) I now think I understand the notability criterion and will re-submit when the artist has gained a greater online presence! Thank you for making Wikipedia great! Weirddude09x (talk) 21:18, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]