Talk:Axis leaders of World War II

Politics at play

There is much a "modern politics" influencing this article. Examples are the inclusions of Iraq and Iran, which surprises not those who know recent history. One can include many more countries and leaders for opposing the british and french rule, and call these pro-Nazi; Ofcourse these are not important for todays politics, and as such are not mentioned! I have done some minor edits, but I am by no means a professional historian. I therefore call upon professionals to mend this article; The Middle East suffers to this day the affter effects of the past European occupation, but with the aid of such professionals, one can avoid adding insult to injury. One must understand that I am asking for truth, not a pacifier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.139.131 (talk) 19:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Article title

I think this article would be more appropriately titled, "List of Axis leaders of World War II." Cla68 23:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Flag Icons

I added flags beside each countries name to match the Allied commanders of WW2 page. If we can't have pretty flags on the infobox then we may as well have them here n'est-ce pas. By the way, I am unsure about the flag for China-Nanjing, and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. In a WW2 infobox in another article I found the China-Nanjing flag was the same as Republic of China, so I chose it. If it or the Kingdom of Yugoslavia flag are incorrect feel free to fix it or let me know so I can. Thanks, Basser g 05:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Adolf Hess

Who's that? Is Rudolf Hess meant? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.176.194.52 (talk) 16:45, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Soviet as Axis

I know the USSR was at first part of the Axis so I would recommend that the only generals to be included in the list are the ones who lead the invasion of Poland. RedNeckIQ55 (talk) 21:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The USSR was not part of the Axis. It was neutral.--Dojarca (talk) 07:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

What are the criteria here?

It seems perverse to list people like Hess and Kaltenbrunner, who had little to do with the conduct of the war, and relatively junior generals like Manstein and Rommel, while skipping out on a large number of the most senior generals and even political figures. I'm going to add Keitel, Jodl, Ribbentrop, Speer, Brauchitsch, and probably some of the more senior German field commanders - certainly Rundstedt, Bock, and Kesselring deserve specific mention, and probably some others. john k (talk) 18:01, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Vichy

Should Vichy be listed as an Axis power? It was not officially aligned with the Germans in any way (unlike, for instance, occupied Denmark), nor did it declare war on the Allies. They did fight the Allies on a number of occasions - most notably in Syria and Lebanon in 1941 and in North Africa in 1942. Should they stay? john k (talk) 18:24, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Undoubtedly, as one of Nazi Germany's puppet states. --24.184.200.190 (talk) 17:02, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Reza Pahlavi as an Axis leader?

The segment on Iran does not have any source to support its claims. There are in fact many claims that are either not related to this article or/and are manipulation of facts.

It says in the article that "During the war, Reza Shah had a policy of neutrality but had built strong relations with Nazi Germany." Political relation cannot be translated into cooperation or supporting Germany in "war", or even close to what this article is about, being an "Axis leader" in war. Reza believed that Germany is winning the war & sought relation with Germany for long term benefit. Again, this does not translate to being a leader in WWII. In fact if "political relation" with Nazi Germany is being an Axis nation arguably Britain would also be considered as part of Axis alliance.

It is a well known fact that Reza Shah Pahlavi was installed by Britain, and was a British puppet. It does not seem logical that a British puppet take measures that would be so against his masters. I will remove the part until authors present reliable sources. It appears that what is presented here maybe a better fit for the WWII article itself.

This article is in serious need of a rewrite. --74.12.96.197 (talk) 01:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

It should be pointed out that he did side with BOTH sides in the conflict, before refusing to expel Axis citizens from his terrirtory, thus resulting in an Anglo-Soviet invasion, just as some of the other people mentioned here as Axis leaders did. He should be in. FOARP (talk) 12:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Finland and Thailand

Finland and Thailand were not members of the Axis but co-belligerents. The article should either be renamed Axis and co-belligerents of the Axis leaders of World War II or Finland and Thailand dropped completely. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 19:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Java

Published references include http://www.papuaweb.org/dlib/bk/penders2002/01.pdf and Sukarno and the Struggle for Indonesian Independence By Bernhard Dahm. (Translated by Mary F. Somers Heidhues.) Cornell University Press: Ithaca and London, 1969.122.106.230.171 (talk) 00:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

concerning the first sentence

the first sentence says the tripartite pact was in 1936, but on the page for the tripartite act, it says it was singed in 1940 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.79.139 (talk) 19:45, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Co-belligerent state combatants

There was a recent deletion of Finland from the list that I restored because I felt it did not tell the whole story. I instead moved the Finland section (along with Iraq and Thailand) to a dedicated Co-belligerent state combatants section to mimic the structure of the Axis powers article. In the heading it is made clear that these countries were not formally part of the Axis.

If anyone has any issues with this, please discuss them below.

Thanks! --KNHaw ^(talk) 17:22, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Nazi Germany and Sea kingdom

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