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Colour of the party

I know that yellow is common associated with liberalism, but is Yellow really the colour of the party? The logo in the page is in black and white, their homepage is all cyan and pink, the logo of the group in Wikipedia is in sky blue, when you search for the party in google you most find blue, cyan or French tricolor-coloured images... I think that yellow is not the most adequated color to represent the party

Political position?

Big tent : [1] · [2] · [3] · [4] · [5] Hérisson grognon (talk) 08:14, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You could easily find sources on several positions, but the party is virtually unanimously classified as centrist—and "big tent" is no political position. --Checco (talk) 03:42, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "Présidentielle : Macron le candidat attrape-tout". Le Parisien (in French). 17 November 2016.
  2. ^ Virginie Martin, Docteur sciences politiques, Kedge Business School (26 January 2017). "Emmanuel Macron, le candidat attrape-tout". La Tribune. {{cite web}}: |author1= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  3. ^ "Emmanuel Macron dévoile enfin son projet attrape-tout". Le Figaro (in French). 2 March 2017.
  4. ^ "Avec Emmanuel Macron, le Parti du Moindre Mal risque de faire très mal". Slate (in French). 30 May 2017.
  5. ^ Clara Bamberger (9 June 2017). "Législatives : "Le parti d'Emmanuel Macron a un caractère attrape-tout"". Les Inrocks..

Liberalism / social-liberalism

Hi @Checco: did you read fr:Discussion:Renaissance (parti) ?

TLDR: in the French sources, there is no consensus for "libéralisme" after 2017, but "social-libéralisme" occurs very often and in varied sources.

Fourmidable (talk) 15:52, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have not read that talk and, as you know, consensus in fr.Wikipedia is not automatically consensus in en.Wikipedia. Also, it seems to me that "social liberalism" might have a slightly different meaning in France than elsewhere. By the way, did you read Talk:Renaissance (French political party)/Archive 2? After a long discussion, it was decided that only "liberalism" was to be kept in the article's infobox. That is what I am going to do. --Checco (talk) 18:40, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Checco: Indeed, liberal does not mean liberalism in English (rather social-liberal). But thus, the correct ideology is social-liberalism, not liberalism. Fourmidable (talk) 19:59, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Centrism, Right wing, Big Tent

Renaissances brands itself as centrist and was actually centrist during the 2017 campaign. Its political position since evolved a lot, leaning to the right. It even occasionally embraced far-right themes, and is regularly pointing the main left-wing parties as "Enemy of the Republic" (aka State). Some also have called it Big Tent.

Labeling Renaissance "centrist" on Wikipedia is now deceptive. The French Wikipedia has stopped using a particular label in the intro. They only specify the political position in the infobox, where it says : centrism, right-wing and big tent.

I suggest we align on this and stop labeling Renaissance outside of the infobox, where we should at least add "Right wing".

talking Cherry 08:20, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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