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Bible verses

Mr Ollie - why would you not include the actual Bible verses instead of links? They're not that long and a lot of people are too lazy to even click on the links? Or do you have something against showing the actual Bible verses? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sk5878 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is based on secondary sources, and it is not appropriate to paste in content from primary sources (such as the Bible) like that. It's not how this site is written. MrOllie (talk) 13:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mr Ollie - I have also deleted the Bible verses quoting the Seven Seals per Wikipedia rules and have quoted you on the edit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals Sk5878 (talk) 04:12, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit warring noticeboard or AE?

I'm working on a filing. Prefer one or the other? You know who. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was just about to start the forms for edit warring myself. But you go ahead and I'll just add a comment. MrOllie (talk) 18:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. Still pulling together revert diffs from the past week. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Surprised?

Or not. This edit is from a school project. See also [1] and [2] for other products of it. DMacks (talk) 13:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

'Tis the season. I've been keeping an eye on another set where the professor apparently assigned them to all cite the same book on different articles. MrOllie (talk) 14:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. Ollie and fellow editors. I am the professor in the class to which you have both been attentive in removing student posts. I recognize that these new Wikipedians are in the early part of the learning curve. I have to say, the assiduousness of the editing is off-putting at this point, and you are actively discouraging the entry of young and diverse editors, which is the whole point of Wikipedia and part of WikiEdu's mission. While I have not used the WikiEdu for this particular iteration of the course, I have in the past. The students would like to communicate that they have carefully sought to avoid bias. If you have more specific feedback to offer that would help them be strong contributors to the site, please do share that. Deletions with vague or no explanation are creating barriers to students' participation and improvement of Wikipedia itself. I heartily hope that many of my students will continue to contribute, and the training will be worthwhile. Thanks, Nora Haenn, PhD NC Prof 20:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmhaenn (talk • contribs)

With respect, your students are writing opinionated essays which place greatly undue weight on opinions from individual sources, and then edit warring when others correctly remove those additions. This is a failure to meet basic standards here. We want to encourage new editors, but not to the detriment of the encyclopedia. - MrOllie (talk) 20:40, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I respectfully disagree, but I'm sure students will adjust if you point out specific language that is "opinionated." Unilaterally deleting entries without sufficient explanation is itself the beginnings of an edit war, and any student who undertook something perceived as an edit war did not do so intentionally (they actually learned the notion from your commentary). It's also amusing to learn their 250-word entries count as an "essay", but such seems to be writing on line. Thanks for reading. And happy editing, Nora NC Prof 21:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)nmhaenn

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