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Happy editing! Aoidh (talk) 16:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Salaar: Part 1 – Ceasefire. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Aoidh (talk) 16:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't personally "attacked" anyone. I have provided multiple credible sources all of which are marked "credible" by WP, to update the latest box office figures on that page but it's evident that editor is misusing the editing authority. I even tried to contact the other editor who recently made some changes but all in vain. Now I'm just trying to understand the reporting method for administrators misuse and manipulation. Thanks VarunKumar35 (talk) 17:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The specific content dispute here is irrelevant; the issue is how you have behaved in these disputes. An important behavioural guideline on Wikipedia is assume good faith, which states that "Unless there is clear evidence to the contrary, assume that people who work on the project are trying to help it, not hurt it." Yet at Talk:Salaar: Part 1 – Ceasefire#Protected edit request on 28 December 2023 you accused Tousif of having an agenda and being biased, and at User talk:Pppery#Salaar - Cease Fire page is being manipulated you accused Pppery of deliberately ignoring the main request and implied that they are also a biased editor. Such accusations of bad faith are usually only made after thorough community discussion, yet you have chosen to use these statements on first sight. Please refrain from using such language in the future, as many editors may find it hurtful. Liu1126 (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for researching a lot about my behavior here and there and for your kind lecture. Also, who among you all kind editors is going to do the actual job which you all are meant to do? i.e research the main edit request that i made and provided not one but multiple sources to support my and many other's request for the same on Salaar's talk page? We have faith in you good editors. Please don't let us down 🤓 VarunKumar35 (talk) 23:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We are talking about your conduct issue here, discussion about the content issue should go on the relevant talk page. Not everyone is familiar with or interested in Indian films. If you feel there's inadequate participation in the discussion, you can post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force to ask for additional opinions. Also see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for further steps. Liu1126 (talk) 00:28, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you but i have already opened a dispute solution case and the box office of Salaar is updated here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_films_of_2023#Box_office_collection but on the original article it's not. Thanks anyway. VarunKumar35 (talk) 00:34, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your continued behavior on article and user talk pages is inappropriate. Whether the sources and information you're discussing are reliable does not mean you can attack and speculate about the motivation of other editors while mentioning these sources, as you did here and here. There's also this edit where you added boldface to highlight an existing highly inappropriate comment and this comment where you state that you are "on a mission now" to get other editors banned. Given this continued behavior please take this as a warning: if you continue to comment on other editors as you have been, especially through sheer speculation and on article talk pages where such speculation has no place or purpose, you will be blocked from editing. You can comment on the content and explain why certain sources are reliable and others are not, but you may not attack, speculate on the motivations of, or in any way disparage any other editors while doing so. - Aoidh (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see. So much of ethical discussion here and I'm thankful for this kindness but what about the actual issue which led to all this? Who is going to update Salaar Box Office? 🤓 VarunKumar35 (talk) 23:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Box office

Hey @VarunKumar35 you are saying that I am bias and against this film or you are on a mission to get me banned, but sadly this is not how things work. You are accusing me with all this just because I asked for an independent tracking source here [1]. The reason why I asked for Figures other than production house because there figures are mostly exaggerated, that's why we don't use them in box office section. A recent example of box office manipulation by Studio are here [2]. Secondly you accused me of increasing box office of other film with a very unreliable source Bollywood Hungama. FYI BH is very reliable source listed at top of WP:ICTFSOURCES infact BH with Pinkvilla and Box Office India are the most reliable Independent box office trackers. We don't do biases here for a certain actor film. Look at this example the, Production house gave figures like this [3] but BH figures were less so we didn't updated with Production house Figures here, [4] see what's an experienced editor gave reason that, please have patience and let the official bollywood hungama source update. Now the reason why I said better source needed there was,

You first gave this source [5] of Business Today, no doubt that is reliable but they are not trackers, look inside it they are citing Manobala Vijayabalan who himself cite his tweet with Production House. Secondly see inside you will see Sachnilk as there source which are considered Unreliable.
The second source is questionable,
The third souce again relying on Manobala Vijayabalan.

Tousif ❯❯❯ Talk 04:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And secondly I am not against updating Salaar box office, even I want that someone should edit it because many people wants to know please take it to Talk page and ping everyone who are involved in edit warring and request administrators to please update that section. Thank you Tousif ❯❯❯ Talk 04:40, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Manobala Vijayabalan is an independent box office tracker and he not even once cited any production house. If you have a proof of your claim please let us see. Secondly, BollywoodHungama itself relies on different sources including producer's figures and are not at all independent industry trackers. For reference see their disclaimer at the bottom of every box office update.

Disclaimer: The box office figures are compiled from various sources and our own research. The figures can be approximate and Bollywood Hungama does not make any claims about the authenticity of the data

VarunKumar35 (talk) 05:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]