Talk:Colion Noir

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== If someone could scan over Noir's videos for information relevant to the article, that'd be great. lol

thanks - AH (talk) 23:36, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Second paragraph is not objective

In the second paragraph, where it discusses Nior's comments about the activist students from Douglas High School, the way it is written has a negative tone that is not objective. That should be corrected. Seronac (talk) 05:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've modified the language of that paragraph to be neutral, and added sources which refute his statement of ignored heroism.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:06, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's better. But, does that paragraph really even need to be there? Is it relevant to or necessary for his biography? I don't think so. -- Seronac (talk) 19:42, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It sums up his career pretty tidily.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:22, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of sad that you aren't even trying to conceal your bias, 'Quisqualis'. If you're going to include an irrelevant paragraph for the purpose of discrediting him, the least you could do is try and make it seem objective. The part about '200,000-strong' has nothing to do with anything and adds nothing to the point. Realnb (talk) 20:44, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Until there is a source citing the number, lets leave it out. Sethie (talk) 21:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This paragraph clearly demonstrates political partisanship. It's sole purpose is to use a quote from the article's subject and use unverified statistics to prove the quote wrong. For what purpose, to what means was this section added? Does not belong on wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcrhodes89 (talk • contribs) 17:17, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

200,000 strong?

I believe published estimates of the crowd are closer to 800,000. Did someone from the NRA put the "200,000" figure in this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.99.3.159 (talk) 22:21, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just be sure to cite a reliable source for your figure.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

last name vs. pseudonym last name

i've noticed that half of the mentions in this article refer to him as Idehen but the other half refer to him as Noir. shouldn't this be consistent? what would it be consistent under? i'd say Noir because the article title is Colion Noir, but that brings up another question, which is why the article begins with his birth name and then mentions his preferred name. shouldn't his preferred name be mentioned first? CanoeUnlined (talk) 18:29, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to fix this by making the article consistently refer to him as Noir. But I still haven't looked at the issue you mentioned about mentioning his birth name first. Every morning (there's a halo...) 18:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

did some research and found two styleguide mentions about the first sentence. there's a whole section called "Names" in the MOS for Biographies that says to list the name most commonly used in the first mention but identify the birth name in the sentence. the example used is for Jack Benny where it says (born Benjamin Kubelsky). therefore i think we should flip the order. i'm happy to do it. thank you, Everymorning, for cleaning up the other name issue in this article. CanoeUnlined (talk) 21:31, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

remove his name

colion has said on multiple occasions that he wishes to remain anonymous. please remove his name. 2600:1004:B091:A61D:D89A:9068:8332:2444 (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]