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Qatari soft power

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The page created by author Ghalbeyakh lacks credibility as the content added by the author on this page is completely a case of misinformation as the topics added by him on this page are incomplete and doesn't give the full disclosure of the matters or claims added. The page is clearly created to attack the reputation of the mentioned country. And not only this page the author seems to have a propaganda of defaming Qatar as he edited multiple pages to spread misinformation. Isouf Qaleed (talk) 07:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism, Finance, Business, Education, Sports, and Qatar. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The topic seems to be a valid one, and the article seems to be supported by a number of independent, third-party sources that appear to be valid themselves, although this could be rebutted in individual instances. The article might have some neutrality issues, but that could be addressed by finding more sources to address the claims made by others. We don't usually delete articles merely because some of the sources present only one viewpoint. I note that this nomination for deletion is parallel to that for Italian soft power, a much shorter article created by the same author, and nominated for deletion using this deletion discussion as justification. That's probably what the nominator is referring to as "edit[ing] multiple pages to spread misinformation". P Aculeius (talk) 12:12, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Does it even matter who the author of the article is? Because it seems that the deletion discussion is against the author and not against the article. Its an important article and there are enough reliable sources. Medellinir (talk) 12:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. MarioGom (talk) 09:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've recently been studying soft power in various countries and decided to write this article as part of my research. I've gone ahead and written up this article, using third-party sources I thought were reliable. I know it is not ready yet, but I decided to upload it in its current form anyway so other editors who are knowledgeable in this topic could contribute. I'm hopeful that with collaborative input, we can further develop this article. Ghalbeyakh (talk) 17:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. MarioGom (talk) 09:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. Comprehensively sourced. \\ Loksmythe // (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The topic of Qatar's use of soft power is extremely notable, and easily passes the general notability guideline. If we want to have some sources listed here for sake of positivism, I'd link these three works, all of which are scholarly or from reputable think tanks (Brookings Institution), in addition to The New York Times writing about it (particularly in post-blockade times). Deletion is not cleanup, and the nomination seems to be a misguided attempt to resolve a content dispute. I'd strongly urge the nominator to withdraw this. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 21:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am aware this was created by a now-banned user, but I do think that this is a well-written article, and banned users are not the only users with substantial contributions. As such, I oppose speedy deletion, or deletion altogether. Draftification would be more than sufficient to deal with any potential bias, as it could be edited there and re-submitted through AfC. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 23:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep - The article is notable, has news coverage, and does not have much primary sources. ''Flux55'' (talk) 22:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that, Speedy delete. As SirFurBot stated, unless the article is fixed, it will have to be completely remade to fit Wikipedia's neutrality guidelines. ''Flux55'' (talk) 21:39, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete - G5 - created by a banned user. Yes, there are edits by a few other users, but these appear to be attempting to remove material to fix the article rather than additions. And yes, I agree that soft power of a country is likely to be sufficiently treated in sources that it merits an article. I am not opposed to some article, but that should not be this article. The problem with keeping this article is that the monster of a creation will very likely always retain the structure that the paid sockpuppet chose for it. The early decisions on a page tend to stick, and so this page will tend to present the subject as the sock wanted it, even though editors will try to deal with clearly problematic sections. Thus if speedy delete is declined, this one needs WP:TNT. Blow it up and let a neutral editor write on this subject. Don't reward paid sock puppetry. I note that there is heavy socking on this AfD too. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: as I understand it, the author was banned for using a sockpuppet, I think to oppose deleting this and a related article. That doesn't really affect the quality of the article or its sources. Issues with the article's neutrality are not arguments for deletion; others have already pointed out sources, just as good as those in the article at the time of its nomination, that could be used to balance its point of view better. The main argument for deleting it is that it's defamatory toward Qatar, and while it may be based primarily on sources with a negative viewpoint, it doesn't read as defamatory. That claim reads like a demand that the article not contain any facts or cite any opinions that are critical of the country, and that's just nonsense; certainly not a valid basis for deleting the article. P Aculeius (talk) 18:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 22:19, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Speedy Delete: Delete per nom. But I must confess that I am truly amazed by the magnitude and intricacy involved in crafting this Wikipedia page. A perfect example of a state-sponsored Wikipedia page for influencing global opinion. Charlie (talk) 04:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean, state-sponsored? There's no evidence of that. If anything here bears the hallmarks of state sponsorship, it's the nomination for deletion! But there's no evidence of that either—just outrage at a topic critical of a country that the nominator doesn't think should be criticized! And that's not a valid reason for deletion. In fact nothing said so far in this discussion justifies deletion. If the discussion in the article comes across as one-sided, then add more sources to present a more neutral point of view, per Wikipedia policy. The status of the editor who created the article is irrelevant to whether the article should be kept or deleted; please base arguments on the topic and the article's contents. An emotional claim that the article "defames" a country by citing independent, third-party sources critical of it is not a proper basis for deletion. P Aculeius (talk) 13:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will recuse myself from this voting process because there seems to be a mix of promotional language and a potentially confrontational or attacking tone within the text, which complicates my comprehension process. Charlie (talk) 12:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Italian soft power, the topic is certainly of encyclopaedic value, as I suspect articles on most countries' soft power would be. See also Soft power of China. Any issues with WP:NPOV can be fixed by impartial editors. Per Red-tailed hawk and Sirfurboy, I would be happy with draftification as an alternative to deletion if the impartiality concerns are deemed too significant. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete: The neutrality of this article on Wikipedia is questionable as it appears to contain negative content that could be seen as defamatory towards a particular country. Additionally, there are concerns that the article has been manipulated by selectively including only partial information. Although the article may rely heavily on sources with a negative perspective. Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.252.188.127 (talk • contribs)

This is a very suspicious comment coming from an anonymous user with no recent editing history, and apparently no grasp of Wikipedia policy (for instance, signing comments, or citing specific policies rather than a blanket reference to all of them). Just as in the original nomination, there are no specifics: what information is "partial" or "incomplete"? Is anything in the article incorrect or unverifiable? We don't delete articles because some (or all) of the sources cited have a negative view of something. The remedy for NPOV issues is to add other sources for balance; the remedy for "partial information" is to add more. This comment presents no valid, policy-based rationale for deletion. P Aculeius (talk) 14:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete: In the "Overview" section, criticism is mentioned regarding sports washing during the FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar. However, it does not include FIFA President Gianni Infantino's statement. Additionally, some missing arguments showcasing that Qatar's human rights record is comparatively better than Russia and China (who faced less criticism for similar issues when hosting major sporting events). This evidence highlights a one-sided portrayal of based nature of the author. As there are numerous unaddressed aspects in this article, it is difficult to contribute to each statement. Therefore, I support the deletion of this page.