Talk:Stop Funding Hate

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"Finances" section

On 9 March 2019 an editor called Horsemask added a "Finances" section to this article with this edit. I modified it to make minor corrections and remove unsourced content with this edit. My modifications were all reverted by the original editor with the comment: "No doubt done in good faith, but statements are referenced". I posted the questions below on his/her talk page but have not yet received a reply, so I have copied them here to obtain consensus:

Hi there. I recently modified an edit you made to the Stop Funding Hate article which you reverted completely. Reviewing my own edit I can see that I removed some of your content in error, but some of my amendment still seems relevant. The edit summary is such a small space that I couldn't explain my reasoning very clearly there and I'd like to explain the reasons for my modification here. My edit:

Corrected the mis-placement of full stops (punctuation comes before references).

Filled in websites and access dates for citations.

Removed a description of the most recent campaign as "the latest campaign" per WP:REALTIME, which suggests avoiding relative-time terms in favour of absolute specifications.

Removed the reference to a "crowdfunding campaign [which] generated £80,251 from supporters in January 2018". I couldn't find any mention of this on the webpage which sources it.^[1] Could you let me know whereabouts on the webpage it says that?

Removed "against a target of £45,000" – my mistake – that's in the "Budget" section of the Crowdfunder webpage.

Changed "but also" to "and" for the fact that the level of debits and credits on its balance sheet is the same. Surely this is normal for a not-for-profit C.I.C.?

Removed "all due within a year" which I could not find on the cited source.^[2] Whereabouts does it say that?

Removed the statement "The Community Interest Company Report (CIC 34) filed with the annual accounts showed that the Stop Funding Hate board had been remunerated...". I had not spotted the official instruction: "If no remuneration was received you must state that 'no remuneration was received' below" and this is not done. Clearly I was wrong to remove this as unsourced.

Removed the statement "...but did not disclose the amounts and which directors were paid." The sense in which I would regard this as unsourced is that WP should not be commenting on what sources do not say. This creates an implication of something from nothing – a technique commonly used by journalists – and would qualify as WP:WEASEL. After all, it would be equally consistent with the source to say "...it does not say that the directors are from Mars".

I'd be very interested to know what you think about this, and whether you think any of the parts of my edit should stand.
Polly Tunnel (talk) 12:31, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

References

^ "Stop Funding Hate". Crowdfunder. Retrieved 12 March 2019.

^ "Stop Funding Hate C.I.C." Companies House. Retrieved 12 March 2019.

I'm interested to know whether other editors:
(a) Wish to leave the "Finances" section as it is.
(b) Wish me to make those of my modifications that I have identified as appropriate (all but 5 and 8).
(c) Wish to have the "Finances" section removed on the grounds that it is not WP:NOTEWORTHY or too WP:WEASEL.

Polly Tunnel (talk) 15:38, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've just placed a talkback template on Horsemask's talk page per WP:DISCUSSFAIL as I'd really like some comments from the original editor. Polly Tunnel (talk) 14:43, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Polly Tunnel: their last edit was the 12th of March last year, the day before you posted to their talk page. Doug Weller talk 17:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Opindia campaign

"as of June 2020, about two dozen companies have withdrawn advertisements from OpIndia, citing “insidious content” and “hateful views”, as part of a campaign by Stop Funding Hate, an advocacy group based in the United Kingdom"[1] Newslinger, do you have time to add this? Doug Weller talk 17:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding this source. I'll add a description of this campaign within the next couple of days, allowing some time in case more coverage materializes. — Newslinger talk 17:57, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Newslinger: also [2] Doug Weller talk 18:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. That should be enough to dedicate an entire section to campaigns in India. — Newslinger talk 18:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Stop Funding Hate". Crowdfunder. Retrieved 12 March 2019.

[CH-2] "Stop Funding Hate C.I.C." Companies House. Retrieved 12 March 2019.

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