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This might be notable, but we have unreferenced stub, with a req for references since 2013. Unless someone can improve this, perhaps a redirect will suffice for now? To Operations order, perhaps? Or better, to Military order (instruction), which seems to be the parent topic? (Btw, if anyone cares for those topics both operations and the military order are very poor, barely referenced, and all fail to show WP:GNG, although common sense suggests that at least the general concept of a military order is notable, and I'd not be surprised to find out that general and operations have stand-alone notability as well - but until that is shown with sources, some redirecting may be in order (pun not intended), also given that 99% of the content is unreferenced and possibly WP:ORish in all of these articles :( ) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural keep: Given your comment that you think [t]his might be notable, I presume you did not follow WP:BEFORE and conduct a search, so I !vote to procedurally keep this article without prejudice to opening another AfD if this topic proves to be not notable. If my assumption is wrong, please correct me. As an independent reason for my procedural keep, deletion is not for cleanup and since the proposal here is to redirect, the proper course would have been to boldly blank and redirect, rather than open a deletion discussion. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Favor keep: It is a terminology in actual use, but the desired acceptable proof may lie elsewhere. I may have contributed to that article in the course of dumping general knowledge. knoodelhed (talk) 21:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I find myself somewhat one the border between a keep and a merge. Fundamentally, I think there's a broad-concept article to be written here. For one, searching google scholar for ""general order" military" gives quite a lot of results. While most are about specific general orders, there are also some about the limitations of such order. See e.g. Hiromoto, Lee (2021). "No, Sir: Can a Military Doctor Be Prosecuted for Refusing an Order from the President?" (PDF). Penn State Law Review. 125 (2). ISSN 1545-7877.. It also appears to be discussed in the abstract in some textbook-style texts, such as Tutherly, Herbert Everett (1898). Elementary Treatise on Military Science and the Art of War.. That said, broad-concept articles are notoriously difficult to write and I can't help but wonder whether at the present a merger into Military order (instruction) would result in a stronger, more coherent article. Even if merged, I naturally would not oppose separating the relevant content into a dedicated article down the line when the amount of content so dictates. -Ljleppan (talk) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]