Talk:Stern

Stern was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 21, 2011	Good article nominee	Not listed

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Contrary to page 4 of Competent Crew 4th Edition by Pat Langley-Price & Philip Ouvry produced for the RYA Competent Crew Certificate ISBN:0-7136-7089-4 The stern is NOT the bow of the boat !

Types of Stern

I don't have the knowledge to add the following, but it would make a nice addition to the page. Stern types could include transom, cruiser ... etc. Maybe some nice photos could be added as well. the ass end of the boat location of the out board motor transom rearof the boat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.4.201 (talk) 06:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this would be very useful indeed. The ones I can think of right now are

Wineglass
Barrelback
Fantail
Slipper
Beaver
Canoe
The list goes on...

There might be some regional differences in terms, so I'd like to have a second opinion from someone who is more into boat design. --GSchjetne (talk) 21:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki

Registred user, pls. add:

85.240.51.4 (talk) 19:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jeepday (talk) 02:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page protected

A user drew my attention to claims of repeated vandalism and page blanking by IPs on this article. Having examined the History from recent days I concur that there's a probalem, so I have placed semi-protection on this page so only established users can edit it for the time being. 23skidoo (talk) 02:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Types of stern picture reworking

This picture shows a series of types of sterns. Please rework them in a graphics program and reinsert to article. Also look into the exact names for some of the sterns where no name has been given. Thanks

81.244.205.152 (talk) 10:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. SiegeLord (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Major reworking

I have just finished (well, sort of finished) adding a lot of new material to this piece as well as a professional diagram of an elliptical stern. scraping all this info together was mind-bending, and I am still not entirely sure I got it all right! Having said that, I think the stream of new citations and some text that really parses out the different types of stern makes this piece seven-fold better and more useful than it was even just a week ago. Or so I hope. KDS4444^Talk 16:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to interlink the directions together with a section like this as seen in the 'port' page:

Merger proposal

I am proposing that the article on the Constanzi stern be merged into this article. As it is, the Constanzi article is a stub-- here it could join all the other types of stern in a unified stern-related article. KDS4444^Talk 10:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Text and/or other creative content from Constanzi stern was copied or moved into stern with [permanent diff this edit]. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Note that the talk page for Constanzi stern had no "discussion" in it: it only contained a few templates, and nothing material to copy over or link to from here.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Stern/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sp33dyphil ^{"Ad astra"} 11:01, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

"the square or transom stern and the elliptical, fantail, or merchant stern[1] and were developed in that order" → " the square, or transom, stern, and the elliptical, fantail, or merchant stern[1], developed in that order"
"a sloped or 'cant'" → "a sloped, or 'cant'" there should be commas when words like or are present. Same with "round or 'circular' stern"
"In 1817 the British" comma after 1817.
"simply ugly-- no" ugly sounds really unprofessional. Is there a replacement?
italicise "Brandywine" in "USS Brandywine".

Transerm term

"In naval architecture, The term 'transom'" de-capitalise "The" and italices "transom".
replace hyphen with – in "1840-1920"

Elliptical stern and Cruiser stern

"this despite the fact that it left the rudder exposed and vulnerable in combat situations." → "despite the exposure and vulnerability in combat situations".
shouldn't there be inverted commas somewhere in "canoe stern, parabolic stern, and the double-ended stern"?
link "warships"
much of "Cruiser stern" in unsourced.

Other types of stern

"A The Constanzi stern is ~~a type of stern designed for use~~ used on ocean-going vessels"

References

FN 4 has a whole block of text linked. The title for it should be The shipwright's vade-mecum.
FN 8 is not formatted, ie no author, publisher, title, access date.

Added {{Wiktionary|Stern}}

Allow me to step in on this one since the original nominator seems to be missing. I need a couple of days though and I'll see what I can do. Brad (talk) 02:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am the nominator-- am swamped with work today and tomorrow, can address many if not all of these changes the day after that, thank you for reviewing it! KDS4444^Talk 04:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've done all I can do on this article. I requested a copyedit but they haven't shown up yet. Good luck. Brad (talk) 03:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed a copy edit. I have to admit I found the material difficult to understand and the descriptions difficult to visualise. Did my best --Diannaa (talk) 01:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What's the status on this review? Been on hold for some time and been a few weeks since the last comments. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to be bold and fail the article. Both the reviewer and the nominator have gone missing. There are still outstanding issues. Brad (talk) 21:13, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, good idea - well done. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:30, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]