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contradictory references for origin of Tucson's name

Cuk Ṣon version:

Tohono O'odham member Gabriella Cázares-Kelly 2020:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/03/gabriella-cazares-kelly-makes-history-pima-county-election/6353273002/

Tucson is Cuk Ṣon.

Barbara Poole, Sara Brown 2018

https://tucson.com/come-celebrate-tucsons-243rd-birthday/article_ec4e3fa2-d7b4-5231-88d7-78ec2d8d8a7a.html

The Spanish name of the city, Tucsón (tuk-son’), is from the Tohono O’odham Cuk Son, meaning “at the base of the black hill,” a reference to the basalt-covered Sentinel Peak, familiarly known “A” Mountain.

Ts-iuk-shan version:

Granger, Byrd H. 1983. Arizona's Names: X Marks the Place. Falconer Pub. Co. Page 630.

https://www.library.pima.gov/content/origin-of-the-name-tucson/

"The name of the city of Tucson derives from that given to Sentinel Mountain by [Tohono O'odham] Indians, Ts-iuk-shan, referring to the fact that the base of the mountain is darker than its summit. Hodge also says the Tu-uk-so-on means "black base.”...

Stjukson version:

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/legend-or-lie-a-mountain-crater

The Tohono O'odham people founded a settlement at the base of "A" Mountain called Stjukson or black base. The black base comes from the volcanic rock. The name Stjukson eventually morphed into Tucson.

Stjucson version:

https://southernarizonaguide.com/how-tucson-got-its-name/

The Tohono O’odham (Desert People) had a village and irrigated fields at Bac, about 7 miles upstream from their village of Stjucson (or Schook-shon), meaning “At The Foot of Black Hill or Mountain.

Please explain what you mean by contradictory. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 02:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The interactive map should be made smaller

In my opinion, the interactive map contained within the article should be made smaller as it's affecting the alignment of the text at its current size. This makes the article look sloppy and unprofessional in my opinion. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 10:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation (and more) in the first line needs repair

• Is the second phonemic transcription /tuːˈsɒn/ meant to represent English? If so, there seem to be problems: Does any anglophone Tucsonan ever stress the second syllable in English? And if so, a) would the "u" be long in the unstressed syllable, rather than the vowel of the stressed syllable, as in e.g. anon?. And b) is there really any possibility of the length of either being phonemic? Both transcriptions -- /ˈtuːsɒn, tuːˈsɒn/ -- seem to be phonetic with regard to vowel length (and mistaken in the case of /tuːˈsɒn/), yet phonemic, as / / claims, with regard to completely unaspirated /t/.

• It's not at all clear what "Spanish: Tucson" is intended to represent. If it's orthography, as the O'odham seems to suggest, one frequent variant is not written according to Spanish norms, which would be Tucsón; if it's intended to represent pronunciation, even Tucson fails to clarify what orthographic -cs- might represent. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 21:42, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed |t|uː|ˈ|s|ɒ|n. Haven't been able to find a source corroborating stress on the second syllable. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 01:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addition to annual cultural events and fairs

Cyclovia Tucson

Hello everyone, I'm new to editing here, but I'd like to include Cyclovia Tucson in the annual cultural events and fairs section. It's been happening in Tucson for 11 years and it's a lot of fun for the whole community.

Cyclovia Tucson is an annual event supported by Living Streets Alliance that invites people of all ages and abilities to walk, bike, and roll down car-free streets for a day. Cyclovia is an Open Streets initiative designed to maximize the enormous amount of space roads take up in sprawling cities like Tucson. Since 2012, Cyclovia transforms the streets of metro Tucson into a block party atmosphere to socialize, incorporating partnerships with small businesses, and giving people the opportunity to move freely through the streets without moving cars. Cyclovia happens twice a year, typically in the spring and in the fall. Dbinder3 (talk) 21:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Two sons

Mention that due to sounding like "two sons" in English, one can find, e.g., in Google:

Jidanni (talk) 03:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Those are enabled by spelling identity, not phonology. The -son of Tucson in American English rhymes with the vowel of Ron, Don, con-man, prefix non-, etc. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 15:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It appears the ward links have expired in some manner. 2600:1011:B044:85CA:1DF1:B5A9:350E:C7E5 (talk) 20:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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