User talk:Renamed user 2dd1b21f41fee07f23da1f167cab5dd243a6726cde616b016fb91c5b2d364922
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Please stop your disruptive editing.
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Please stop
Please stop mass changing short descriptions on byzantine related pages without consensus. Ratnahastin (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Most of my changes have just been changing the mind you basically derogatory term of "Byzantine emperor/Byzantine empire" to "Eastern Roman Emperor/Eastern Roman Empire". All of my changes make sense and the consensus's have already been going on for years. The term "Byzantine" was made in the 16th century to make the Eastern Romans seem not Roman. However the Eastern Romans were Roman. So instead of going all the way to the extremes "Eastern Roman" is the correct term because it shows how they were Roman, and it shows how they were still different. ByzantineHistory435 (talk) 11:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still, it is good to get consensus on all the pages you're doing this to. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 14:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @ByzantineHistory435 The term "consensus" as used on Wikipedia refers to community WP:CONSENSUS. I am not opposed on principle to the changes you are advocating for. But you don't get to make those kinds of fairly dramatic changes unilaterally. While I agree that the term "Byzantine" is ahistorical, it is nonetheless the WP:COMMONNAME used in the modern English-speaking world when referring to the Empire and its culture. If you want to make an argument to change how we reference it, you will need to open a discussion and request community input. I would suggest Talk:Byzantine Empire, where I see someone has recently raised the issue. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Respectfully, that talk page (and those related) constitutes a brick wall for the East Roman-Byzantine issue. Every so often someone wants to change it and it gets shut down by COMMONNAME after often drawn-out arguments. Unless the academic viewpoint does a complete 180 on the last 300 years of scholarship, that is unlikely to change. Currently, the status quo is to keep whatever the article already says, with the general rule that post-West Roman Empire collapse often uses Byzantine and pre-collapse uses East Roman. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @ByzantineHistory435 The term "consensus" as used on Wikipedia refers to community WP:CONSENSUS. I am not opposed on principle to the changes you are advocating for. But you don't get to make those kinds of fairly dramatic changes unilaterally. While I agree that the term "Byzantine" is ahistorical, it is nonetheless the WP:COMMONNAME used in the modern English-speaking world when referring to the Empire and its culture. If you want to make an argument to change how we reference it, you will need to open a discussion and request community input. I would suggest Talk:Byzantine Empire, where I see someone has recently raised the issue. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still, it is good to get consensus on all the pages you're doing this to. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 14:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Stop
Do not edit against consensus or make mass changes to article descriptions without explanation or seeking consensus.Dozens of recent edits have been, or will be reverted as they were made in a manner that is disruptive. Further disruption of this or similar nature will likely result in the loss of editing privileges. You are a new editor, so some slack is being cut here. But this should be understood as Final 
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