User talk:Backyard116

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bill Carmody (lawyer) (June 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CNMall41 was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

It is going to be difficult to create a draft if this is in fact someone you known personally. People tend to write in a more promotional tone for those they know. With that in mind, this draft reads like a resume and is highly promotional. For example, the second sentence mentions clients as if representing this clients gives him notability for Wikipedia. Notability is not WP:INHERENT.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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CNMall41 (talk) 22:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Backyard116! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! CNMall41 (talk) 22:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox/Bill Carmody (November 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:

A common misconception is that high profile cases are what makes a lawyer notable. There is a consideration that without a good reputation the high profile cases will not arrive, but that is commercial reality, and not what makes a lawyer notable I a Wikipedia sense.

This means that while you may feel that the section you have chosen to title "Notable cases" holds sway here it does not, the more so since you have chosen the word d"Notable" in the title.

A lawyer represents clients. This is WP:ROTM behaviour. We truly have no interest in it. What interests us is whether references show them to be notable.

For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.

The key words are "about them".

The foregoing means I am declining your first attempt at submission with the request that you work on understanding and meeting Wikipedia's needs

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Backyard116/sandbox/Bill Carmody and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:34, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The replies to your apparently urgent quest for information are now in my talk page archives.

Your assertions that you are correct are interesting, but hold no water.

I wish you success. To achieve it you will need to change your course. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:11, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Carmody Notability

I believe that notability for William Carmody is well established in the draft. I have very carefully studied Wikipedia policy for notability of people. WP:BIO and WP:GA of similar bios. Note I disclose a COI above. First, there have been multiple profiles of Carmody in independent, highly reliable media sources. Perhaps these were not considered because of paywalls, so I have posted excerpts below on Talk, making it easier to review.

"Lawyer to Ex-WeWork CEO Neumann Wins Big by Betting on Himself" Bloomberg Law [1]
"Titan Of The Plaintiffs Bar: Susman Godfrey's Bill Carmody" in Law360. [2]
"In Waymo v. Uber, an Encore Showdown for Lead Counsel at Quinn and Susman" in Law.com. in Law360. [3]
"Match, IAC Tap High-Profile Litigator for $2 Billion Tinder Suit" in Bloomberg Law. in Law360. [4]
Attorney heading lawsuit against pharmaceutical giants known for ‘betting the company’: [5]
Carmodys breaks from traditional law firm look: [6]

Second, he has also received additional significant coverage in the mainstream independent press, well beyond passing mentions, and these can be combined to demonstrate notability (“multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability” WP: Notability (people)). Again, I have posted excerpts of content behind paywalls to make it easier to review.

Waymo v. Uber Trial Opens With a Battle of Sports Metaphors: [7]
Match, IAC Tap High-Profile Litigator for $2 Billion Tinder Suit: [8]
With LIBOR Suit, Baltimore Reinforces Role as Banking Watchdog: [9]

His qualification is not based on the cases he has worked on – it’s based on substantial press coverage about him. While I have listed his significant cases, this is for the purpose of structuring the page like that of similar highly-prominent attorneys, such as David Boies, F. Lee Bailey, and Carrie Goldberg as per MOS:SNO. Every single source I used to verify his participation in these cases also specifically includes that he was the attorney on the cases. Backyard116 (talk) 19:05, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Bill Carmody has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Bill Carmody. Thanks! asilvering (talk) 21:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

Your edit to Draft talk:Bill Carmody has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information.
Please do not copy the content of paywalled references to any part of Wikipedia. While I am certain you considered it to be helpful it is a copyright violation, and has been removed and the revisions of the talk page have been deleted to render it impossible to restore. Wikipedia cannot accept copyright violations, however well intentioned 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:03, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, please do not copy any material to Wikipedia, paywalled or not. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:03, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bill Carmody

Hello, Backyard116. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Bill Carmody, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Bill Carmody

Hello, Backyard116. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Bill Carmody".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]