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Promotional B.S.; no evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Technology and Computing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ilya Sutskever; while there are other co-founders the press coverage is clear that he is the primary instigator (CNBC, AP). And there is nothing other than that press release to be the topic of an article. Walsh90210 (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ilya Sutskever: (and merge) WP:TOOSOON, essentially just WP:MILL press releases - no evidence of independent notability right now C F A 💬 17:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As of now, even a redirect is premature. Announcements made a couple of days ago regarding future plans for a company that has done nothing yet belong in press releases, not encyclopaedias. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Straightforwardly not notable, at least not yet. Sustained coverage may occur later. StereoFolic (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - It's obviously clear that it's notable because the company's incorporation has been extensively covered by at least a dozen highly reputable news organizations, such as Bloomberg, The Verge, Axios, CNN, AP News, CNBC, New York Times and others. The article is worthy and notable to exist merely as a stub. Redirect does not make sense, as other notable people are involved in the organisation, including former Apple AI lead, Daniel Gross (entrepreneur), and former OpenAI researcher Daniel Levy. Additionally, Ilya having co-founded OpenAI carries significant credibility Mr Vili talk 04:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A brief flurry of news coverage from reliable sources does not indicate notability; see WP:SUSTAINED StereoFolic (talk) 12:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It's been mentioned in many of the most reputable sources and the founders are very notable. If you don't keep it at least as a stub, then the Wikipedia pages about the founders have nothing to reference. It's just a gap in Wikipedia's coverage. Obviously if it's WP:TOOSOON, it can be deleted and added back later, but it seems wiser to leave it as a stub at this point. Kfein (talk) 04:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The question as to whether it can be deleted is what is being discussed now. Saying it is discussed in sources does not help at AfD. We need to discuss the actual sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ilya Sutskever. I don't see any evidence this meets GNG or NCORP; the coverage so far is enough to support inclusion on Sutskever's page but I found no in-depth coverage of the company beyond the announcement of its founding. I'd be open to reassessing if the editors arguing to keep would present some of the "extensive coverage" they are arguing exists; all I see is outlets picking up the press release on its founding, and every article I looked at was essentially the same as the two linked by Walsh90210. Since there is coverage with respect to Sutskever and the company is mentioned on his page already, I don't see any issue with a redirect. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 17:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, this organisation's founding has independent notability due to the events related to the temporary firing of sam altman leading up to the resignation of key people at OpenAI, such as Jan Leike and Ilya Sutskever
Which are discussed in various sources including examples below:
- https://www.ft.com/content/68cb9b1f-c3bb-4a90-a8b6-17b7e3ecd234
- https://siliconangle.com/2024/06/19/openai-co-founder-ilya-sutskever-launches-startup-develop-safe-superintelligence/
This isn't a routine company incorporation. There's a lot of history behind it that should be noted, as well as the other cofounders all having strong crediblity and notability themselves. I vote that the article remains a stub for the time being, or at worst case, drafted. A redirect here does not make sense. Mr vili talk 18:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That isn't going to pass muster for an NCORP AfD. You are saying that the startup inherits notability from notaboe founders. It doesn't. Under NCORP we need WP:SIRS - significant coverage in independent reliable secondary sources. For significance you need to consider WP:CORPDEPTH which says Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
pretty much every news source is significantly covering the incorporation beyond WP:MILL, they are all talking about the history of events leading up to the incorporation which is not a usual scenario. Mr vili talk 18:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ilya Sutskever - per my comment above. This startup does not meet WP:NCORP. The redirect is an acceptable AtD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]