Talk:The D.O.C.

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The whole article needs rewriting.. I've done some, but

He was easily one of the fiercest lyricists that the West Coast had ever witnessed--a combination of Ice Cube's scowling aggressiveness but balanced with a sophistication that would have rivaled KRS-One at his best. With a ragga-tinged flow, he could drop lyrical bombs with fury on "It's Funky Enough" or sublimely style for "The Formula."

Definitely needs a good de-POVing. --Szabo 04:26, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

The lyrics presented in the OHHLA link have been misinterpreted (as they often are): for instance, in "It's Funky Enough", he actually says "Enunciate well /so that you can tell/ I am not illiterate/ no not even a little bit". The file says "An M.C. ate well/so that you can tell..."---which is wrong. Anyway, a lot of the lyrics on OHHLA are misquoted, because the people who type them up are mostly just "private individuals" who type the shit up as they hear it. Alexander 007 03:49, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've tried to add some things and leave away/change some things. In any case, the D.O.C. was never a ghostwriter for NWA etc., because he's credited in the liner notes. Wathiik 15:24, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"It was the friendly competition between Ice Cube and The D.O.C. that elevated N.W.A's lyrics to the point of nihlism." I don't think the person who wrote this has any idea what "nihilism" means... which is kinda inexcusable on a site where you can look up anything you want.

Does anyone know what the D.O.C stands for? They're obviously not his initials. --Glaze 20:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What does D.O.C stand for.... That is a good question, could sum1 who knowz put that info in the article PLS. Peace Out! Wut Does it stand for?? I'll use a search engine and get back to y'all...

Blatant POV

This article more accurately belongs on a fanpage than an encyclopedia. It is highly biased, and filled with POV. I'm tagging it for cleanup. ---Jackel 23:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

For someone who is not knowledgeable about this, it would be helpful to include how the D.O.C is pronounced (is it letter by letter - the D Oh See or is it 'the DOC')

Snoop talks of "the Doc" on Doggystyle, but that could be a reference to Dre. I say "D-O-C". Tim Ivorson 2006-08-21

Formally, it is "D-O-C" but due to the relaxed attitude of Snoop Dogg etc. it is sometimes said as "Doc" however you will have to base on context whether the person being talked about is Dr. Dre or The D.O.C.

Eminem

In Encore Dre and Em say "The return of the "DOC" then it says Oshea. Does this talk about the D.O.C. and Oshea could be Ice Cube???

Place of Birth

There seems to be some disagreement on where The D.O.C. was born, Dallas or Houston. I'd appreciate it if any further edits to his place of birth were sourced by a reputable source in accordance with WP:BLP. shoy 00:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

This article has been tagged for needing citations. Here are some of the statements:

"The D.O.C. is reported to have written most of NWA's second album Efil4zaggin[citation needed]. The other writer for the album was MC Ren[citation needed]. The D.O.C. went on to introduce Dr. Dre to Suge Knight[citation needed], and he helped mold the career of Snoop Dogg[citation needed]."

There's an interview with the D.O.C. at the following website: http://www.thaformula.com/d_o_c__-_ruthless_to_deathrow.htm

in which he talks about doing most of the writing for N.W.A. and helping out Snoop and Suge Knight being his "body guard" (he describes him as being a 300-lb guy who followed him around). I don't know how to add citations otherwise I would have put them in. Can someone add them? thanks. Drumac 18:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

"In Jay-Z's Song Public Service Announcement (Interlude) from The Black Album he says 'Not D.O.C. but similar to them letters No One Can Do it Better'"

"The song "It's Funky Enough" has appeared on popular videogames Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, True Crime: Streets of LA and Madden 2005. Also, Whirlwind Pyramid appeared on Tony Hawk's Underground 2 and The Formula appeared on True Crime: Streets of LA."

These two pieces of information are trivia and should have their own section (if kept at all) because they don't fit with the main page. the Jay-Z quote probably shouldn't be mentioned at all. The D.O.C. has been mentioned in songs by many artists from Snoop and Dre to countless others.

this article needs a complete rewrite, it is terrible!