User talk:Jeff G.

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I will try to post replies on the same talk page that the original post was made.

So if you post here, I will reply here, and if I posted to your talk page, I will monitor it and see any replies you make. I think this makes things less confusing because the conversation doesn't get split across two different pages. If you want me to reply elsewhere, please say so. Thanks! -- Jeff G. 03:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're invited!

Wikipedia:NYG invite

Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:ComeAsYouAre.jpg

Hello, JeffGent. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:ComeAsYouAre.jpg) was found at the following location: User:JeffGent/Nevermind temp. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 22:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:InBloom.jpg

Hello, JeffGent. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:InBloom.jpg) was found at the following location: User:JeffGent/Nevermind temp. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 09:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Babel levels

Hi, I noticed you added an xx-6 level to the Babel levels page. Please don't do this without discussing it first on Wikipedia talk:Babel. In case you discussed this a long time ago and the discussion is already archives, please accept my apologies, but please also show where the discussion was made and how consensus was reached.

I say this having participated in the xx-5 discussion, a level which was vehemently opposed by many Wikipedians. When consensus was reached to approve it for English, it was made clear that this was the highest level - as in, to use this level, you absolutely must be a professional, for example a professional translator of this language, having a degree in literature, or something similar. Unfortunately, as many users have predicted, this level is used by many Wikipedians who have poor language skills and don't actually understand what it means. This does not detract from the intended meaning of xx-5 as the professional (read: uber-godlike) level.

In short, please discuss before adding any more levels. Also, please reply on my talk page if it's not too much trouble.

-- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 16:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox Politics of Tonga

Please don't put templates in article space. It doesn't negate fair use policy, and just makes a mess. Zetawoof_(ζ) 09:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for your concern. What do you suggest we do with the "Politics of XX" infobox templates that have non-free images on them (that is, just about all of them)? I thought I had found a creative solution, short of substing then trashing the templates, or trashing the images. Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Find alternative images. Remember that fair-use policy dictates that FU images be used to "contribute significantly to an article", not as a decorative element. Zetawoof_(ζ) 09:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From what I gather, there are very few. The image copyright holders (the monarchs, legislatures, etc. that run the countries) hold their crests and flags very dear to their hearts. Have you read 1988 Revised Edition of "the Tonga Royal Arms and Flag Act" ("ROYAL ARMS AND FLAG ACT - Act No. 17 of 1962 - AN ACT TO PREVENT THE UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE TONGA COAT OF ARMS AND THE ROYAL ENSIGN", "His Majesty in Council", "Kingdom of Tonga") (as available online at http://legislation.to/Tonga/DATA/PRIN/1988-007/RoyalArmsandFlagAct.pdf)? It's quite short, and I've excerpted the relevant portions of it at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:SilaTonga.svg. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So, time to get creative... I don't know much about Tonga; are there any really iconic landmarks or buildings? Failing that, would a map of the country be recognizable? (Yeah, I think this is a pretty silly situation, but we're sort of backed into a corner, what with the flag and coat of arms being effectively unusable.) Zetawoof_(ζ) 20:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Your edit to 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0

You applied a warning template to my talk page, which as read accuses me of posting content in violation of copyright. Whether or not to use the AACS decryption key literally has been being discussed on Talk:AACS encryption key controversy, where I invite you to participate. (I'll also note incidentally that the links in the template don't work; what you were supposedly warning me against doing (publishing a DMCA-violating copyright circumvention device) doesn't match the warning language on the template; and in any case it's rendered moot by the consensus to include the number literal in the article as appropriate.)

Also, a tip on communicating with other editors: it's considered rude to "warn" long time editors and administrators with boilerplate templates rather than engaging them personally. I just wanted to let you know this, since I assume it was not your intent to be rude, so as to save you the embarrassment of making a gaffe.

Cheers, and happy editing!

Demi ^T/_C 19:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re. Fair image use at Infobox:Politics of Tonga

Hi dear Jeff, I'm sorry it took me a day to get back to you regarding this matter. The way I see it, the deletion was in order since, although I know you mean well, circumventing the process cannot be allowed. Moving a template into article space (and transcluding it) because fair use of image in template space is not allowed wasn't an appropriate solution, even more so when fair use in article space should be resorted to when absolutely necessary. Having that image which, as you said yourself, "The image copyright holders (the monarchs, legislatures, etc. that run the countries) hold (...) very dear to their hearts" for simple decorative purposes completely escapes our fair use policies. he use of the g6 criteria may have been unclear, and maybe g12 would have been more appropriate; however, I meant to use the term "housekeeping" in the context of removing inappropriate content from one namespace. I intended to create the template in the proper namespace before replying to you, but I see the task has already been done. Hope this explanation satisfies you, and I wish to make completely clear that I know your intentions were good and in the best interest of our project; but unfortunately, they also were not within due process. Best regards, Phaedriel - 00:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC) [reply]

I went ahead and placed the national flag image in the infobox. While it is not the standard, I hope it works. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 09:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]