Talk:Dane Cook

Awful

This article is truly awfully organized. I will be attempting a full re-organization and re-write of some material. -- Ubergenius 15:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

SU-FI

Alright, whomever placed the picture of the Su-Fi on this page, has a picture that is doing it wrong... The thumb needs to be sticking out..... Anyways alot of this stuff is silly. Like the thing written at the end of this page about how they are all offeneded because of what he is saying about religion and what not. Shut up...Stop your whining...There is nothing that bothers me more is how someone can complain so much about a famous persons views...I mean seriously...If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Dane Cook is hilarious....Get over yourself....I'm a devout christian, yet love his work...

Sadly the world is filled with silly people like you who can't seem to have a sense of humor. People need to learn to laugh at themselves. I mean seriously... Like you're some just person... You are just as guilty

Personal Life

Is there any way someone could add some information about his personal life?

"Tragic Death"

Please review the source cited for his death, at the bottom of the page it states: " about this web site. (this story was dynamically generated using a generic 'template' and is not factual. Any reference to specific individuals has been 100% fabricated by web site visitors who have created fake stories by entering a name into a blank 'non-specific' template for the purpose of entertainment. For sub-domain info and additional use restrictions: FakeAWish.com)" I doubt including information from this source adheres to the Wikipedia biography standards, please revise accordingly.

Cleanup Needed

This article needs a cleanup. Some of the history sections are almost unreadable due to density and unorganization, and the content is scattered. I will work on it as much as I can, but some help would be appreciated. Furthermore, a new article about his HBO special,, Dane Cook's Vicious Circle has been created by myself, but it needs a LOT of work, if anyone is willing to help. -- Ubergenius 15:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hiya, I saw the new article on a maintenance sweep, but I've changed it to a redirect for now, since I'm not convinced that it meets the standard for an individual article. My recommendation is that you maintain the info on the special in a separate section on the Dane Cook article for now, and concentrate on accumulating verifiable references, per Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. If the section grows too large, then it'll be easy enough to split it back out to a separate article later. --Elonka 21:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Devout Catholic? No

This was in the article:

According to his last HBO Comedy special, an hour and a half long presentation, he has become a devout Catholic, despite previous bits he has done that mock the Catholic Church. A part of the show was dedicated to talking about what Jesus has done for him in his life and how much he loves Christ. The effect it has had on his fan base is still unclear.

This is not true at all. Not only have I watched the video of the HBO special once, but the audio 3 seperate occasions, and no where is this said. He DOES tell a story of a guy who makes fun of him for his catholic beliefs in an argument over Cook saying "God bless you" when he sneezed and the man returning with "I'm an atheist". This skit lasted for, at most, 10 minutes, ending with Cook hoping that when he dies, his body becomes a tree, then chopped down, ground into paper, and the bible printed on him. No where was there a mention of discussing his religion and the things Jesus has done for him. Being a Christian, I would be happy if he did, as it would be good if one of my favorite comics was a Christian also, but he most certainly did not make the statements mentioned above in this HBO special. Ubergenius 14:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I concur with Ubergenius. I've watched the special several times and there isn't one instance that he talks "about what Jesus has done for him in his life and how much he loves Christ." The joke is funny, but that's not what it's about.--Jude 05:34, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, nothing suggests that he's devout. It's all for the joke. -Mike Payne 09:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

8 Guys

a couple of days ago I posted anonymously and added that dane wrote, directed, and starred in 8 Guys. he definitely did, it's on his website even. Someone deleted it, however. I'm gonna put it back, if anyone deletes it, that's not cool. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Eagleboy978 (talk • contribs)03:41, 20 July 2006.

Famous Relatives

Is Dane Cook the son of "This American Life" producer Diane Cook?67.116.70.107 18:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

no, his mother's name is Donna, she just recently passed away.--Jude 10:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

POV movie

Although the scene is brief, Cook makes the character all his own and even sings his character's theme song, "Waffle Man!", a bit pov?-~~``~or whatever does the name thing

Changed. Williamnilly 05:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

MSG

Changed "Madison Square Garden" to "Madison Square Garden's Nokia Theater" because Cook did not perform in the stadium. Nokia Theater is a smaller room within the MSG venue, but saying he sold out Madison Square Garden gives the impression that he was playing the same room that Bruce Springsteen plays when he sells out MSG.

Changed. Williamnilly 05:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I have heard reference in a few places to this aswell, that he sold out the Nokia Theater, which IS a very different thing then selling out what people usually think of when they hear madison square garden. Can anyone find a source to confirm that he performed at the stadium or the nokia theater? I think this would be an important distinction to make. Riphal 03:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) Riphal

I was the original poster of this topic and I was at one of the Dane Cook MSG shows. The show did take place in the Nokia theater.

Pop culture references

I'm going to argue that using pop culture references in a standup act is not a "hallmark," since it's nearly impossible to find a comic who doesn't do exactly that. The inclusion of this unhelpful section gives this page an air of vanity, so I'm excising it. R 11:15, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

• He makes references that very few do. For example, when he told the Walgreen story, he did in reverse, in reference to Quentin Tarantino. He also incorporates jokes from previous CDs.
  • Quentin Tarantino didn't invent this storytelling device. He's self-referential? So are many other comedians.

Criticisms

Should some mention be made of the accusations that have been lodged against Cook? Namely, that he has "lifted" a certain amount of material from comedian Louis C.K. and potentially others as well? --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd say sure, provided its stated who is generally making the allegations, that examples/proof is given, and its stated in a NPOV (rather than accusatory). Williamnilly 23:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I know where such evidence is posted, and I'm going to link to it, and I will try hard to keep the tone neutral.--Priceyeah 06:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

So where are you on finding this source? It's almost June! Please find it soon, Google is a bitch for me to use...168.103.56.133 00:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: Okay, I found this on the Louis CK forum: Louis CK in an (edited) post merely says "fuck it. who cares?". The forum thread can be found here (screenname is 'louisck', second reply). Off topic: I don't think Dane Cook is funny...at all.168.103.56.133 00:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I removed the accusation until we can see proof of this. A source should be cited in which we can actually view the accusations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weters (talk • contribs) 13:17, February 1, 2006.

I was suprised when I came to this article and found nothing at all on the whole Louis CK ordeal. I would really like to see some put in because it is very notable. PrettyMuchBryce 19:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

here's proof: http://www.redban.com/blogy/?p=51 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Benbenbenben (talk • contribs) 04:03, 30 July 2006.

I revised the line including Joe Rogan and cited a forum post by himself saying Cook has taken his material. --72.155.207.174 08:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

the entire critisism section seems to be written with a severe bias,especially where it states he appeals to pubescent girls and his comedy turns off "intelligent fans"

I firmly believe that the individual who contributed the extensive section on criticism of Dane is not a fan of his work, and this bias is evident. Therefore, the content should be shortened and the tone should be altered to reflect neutrality.

I think the page should be re-opened to editing, especially the part about the things Louis C.K. said about Dane in an interview. He was being pressured into saying more and more derogatory things by the hosts of the show who admittedly don't like Dane Cook. Whoever posted those comments should also have included that fact. The point of this website is factualy information, not biased opinions. I say this as a fan of facts, not as a fan of Dane Cook. (Although, in the spirit of things, im somewhat of a fan, he kind of tends to go overboard, so the jokes usually stop being funny about ten minutes into the punchline.)

Myspace's Tom Anderson quote

Is this true? Does Tom have a beef with Cook over something Cook said or something? I was skeptical, but there's the link .... BabuBhatt 22:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's true. Someone has deleted the proof but hopefully it resurfaces soon.

I'm placing the link here in hopes someone can determine its authenticity: [1] BabuBhatt 22:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

That's fake, from what I see is that it was made using myspaces ability to use full html, the last poster just had to make a fake post using html after his real post, it even broke the tables. If Tom had a problem like that and claimed to delete profiles if you disagreed, then why would dane cook have a profile?

Anyway, I doubt Tom is even that stupid. -- 21:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

This is direct from Cook in his podcast, so take it with a grain of salt, but he says that Tom has attended several of his shows and personally visited with him and that the two are somewhat friends, so I don't know what to think of that. -- Ubergenius 16:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

BAMF

Could we get an editorial clarification on the BAMF reference? It doesn't make any sense. "BAMF, made by Dane Cook as a replacement for BAMF" or similar. Wtf does that mean?--Htmlism 18:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

BAMF stands for Bad Ass Mother Fucker put that

He did NOT coin this phrase.

showing his complete un-originality. Dane Cook is an unoriginal crook

So who coined the phrase then, and why are you being a douchebag?

Neutrality of Accusation

The last section's last sentence said that the material was clearly stolen, though the writer had said that this is what Louis CK thought. I changed the sentence structure to show that this is not a fact not endorsed by Wikipedia, but is merely what Louis CK thinks.

Yuk Yuk incident

This should probably be discussed: http://i7.tinypic.com/2119laq.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Benbenbenben (talk • contribs) 04:03, 30 July 2006.

I added it in as a short line—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.155.207.174 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 7 August 2006.

The article makes this incident seem as though Cook was clearly in the wrong, but according to the article that is cited, the owner of the club sided with Cook, saying the manager was wrong to try and cut his act short. I will modify the article to note this. -- Ubergenius 14:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

This whole section seems kind of biased and unclear.

"After going over time and ignoring the "red light", the club's manager and headliner (Peter Kelamis) cut off his microphone and tried to "play him off" with music." The mananger and the headliner are the same people? Doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest? If that's the fact maybe he was upset that Dane got to go first and that's why he tried to get him off stage, not because he ran over time.

"Mark Breslin, the founder of the comedy club chain, quickly apologized and placed the blame on the club's manager, who happened to be new to the job." So is the manager still the headlining guy. And the whole composiion of that sentance is biased. I would either take away the part mentioning that the manager was new or incorporate in a way that didn't insinuate that he was being used as a scapegoat by the owner.

Recent Edits (2/25)

I've tried to overhaul the section on the Yuk-Yuk's incident. The headliner was not the manager of the club. Also there was nothing to support the statement that the manager was new to the job. I've tried to clarify what happened, and also emphasize the owner of Yuk-Yuk's strong support of Cook as opposed to the "scapegoat" statement previously discussed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Max Overload (talk • contribs) 13:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Also Pete Johansson was not there, was not the club manager and had nothing to do with that show. I was involved in Talent AFTER the incident, brought in specifically to prevent anything like it from happening again!" Please change the post to reflect that. The manager at the time was brand new, and had no idea who Cook was. His talent surpervisor role was ended after that.

Dane Cook was not in the wrong. The manager is a dick.

Super Finger

File:Http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Dane-Cook-hb02.jpg

The super finger is a "Dane Cook Parody" of giving the middle finger. The super finger is like a bigger version of the middle finger, it is when you put your middle finger and your ring finger togethor and stick your thumb out. It is just a funny comedic bit that Dane Cook created.

Its not a parody. He made it because the middle finger is so tired.

Dane Cook made it up? My ass. People from Richard Prior to Eminem have been using it a long time before Dane Cock.--68.97.75.170 05:47, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Material Controversy

I removed the following paragraph from this section:

Another example of possibly plagiarized material is Cook's reference to the Department of Motor Vehicles as "Satan's asshole." This line is largely the same as a line used by comedian Bill Hicks in a 1992 performance (released in 2005 as the CD Salvation : Oxford November 11, 1992). During the performance, Hicks refers to Los Angeles as "Satan's shithole."

The use of Satan and a reference to the anus is hardly innovative. If both people had mentioned DMV, perhaps this could pass. As it is, the fact that one man does not like the DMV and the other does not like Los Angeles and both refer to it as a terrible place is not in any way "plagiarized material."

I also removed this paragraph:

Comedian Joe Rogan too has claimed Dane Cook has taken his material [2]. He has also listed Cook as one of the comedians he feels is a "hack" and a "thief." The list includes Carlos Mencia and Robin Williams.

For this to return, the last sentence must be removed (it has nothing to do with Dane Cook) and the information from the link must be worked into the text. Right now it is just a link to a story, not information in an article. - Kuzain 00:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I do believe the line about Joe Rogan should be put back in. It is not bias and it is a direct quote from Joe Rogan. But I will let you guys deal with it.

Wow, Joe Rogan calls another comedian a thief, even mentioning Robin Williams. Joe Rogan was in diapers when Williams started his career, so I think Rogan needs to learn who is stealing from who.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.193.245 (talk)

I remember when I wrote that line about Joe Rogan and who is in his list of theieves...I think it was originally fine and that the second sentence is just a quick side note about the list of people he believes to be thieves. And just to say to the above discusser, you do know Robin Williams still tours and was on the touring circuits when Joe Rogan was too and thats when and where he heard these alligations.

Double Jointed?

I've edited out the entry:

"Cook is considered to be double-jointed."

Under "The Super Finger" entry. I couldn't find anything via google search to back this up, nor is it really relevant to "The Super Finger" since people that aren't double jointed (like myself) can also do the hand gesture.

Liqker 09:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Age?

The bio has two different birth dates (years) listed for him. 1972 & 1976. Which is correct?

This is a PR piece

"After the release of his immensely successful CD"... LOL. That's ridiculously commercial. This is PR fluff... how many encyclopedias allege romantic affairs with people like jessica simpson? Argh. This is such a b.s. entry. pathetic.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Aethlos (talk • contribs)21:08, 19 Sept 2006.

Thank you for the constructive criticism. Now we really know how to make the article better. Please sign your critiques next time.Williamnilly 03:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

What the hell is up with this?

I don't think any of this is accurate. First of all, this guys birth date is listed as being 1962, this would make him 44 years old. Second, the years given later in the article are 10-15 years IN THE FUTURE!!!! WHAT THE HELL!?!?

IMBD says he's born in 72, making him 34. http://imdb.com/name/nm0176981/

lol internet movie basedata? :)

--64.26.117.250 11:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Words dont control us. Not anymore.

Material controversy

This section must be verified with reliable sources before it is returned to the article. FloNight 16:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I returned it, with one source. The linked source has audio of some of Louis CK plagiarism, which is all from Louis CK's 2001 CD. The audio from Dane Cook is all from a 2003 act. Louis has also talked about this on a few radio shows, but audio and radio are hard to source. Louis CK also had an article on his website, but took it down. However, he talks about it briefly at a stand-up comedy forum here (Yes, it's really him and not someone posing as him). Second, if anyone can help find a source, one of the jokes that Joe Rogan claims that Dane Cook stole from him was about tigers mating. Dane Cook's joke is about hippos mating.--Trypsin 12:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

You need a reliable source that comments on this controversy; linking two similar things and saying "See, see, they're the same!" is not sufficient. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 13:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

How is it now? There's a newspaper source now that reports the controversy and Dane's response. If you want to cut it down or change the language, that's fine, but I don't think it warrants removal of the entire section.--Trypsin 13:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It's fine now. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 14:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Cook has denied any plagiarism.[11] This footnote is a dead link. The citation specifies when the material was originally published, but that material no longer exists online to be verified. Do we delete the footnote? Must we delete the entire sentence? Or is it sufficient as-is? It seems to me, this is an important point — whether he denied committing plagiarism — and we should be able to provide some substantiation. Cribcage 08:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I quoted parts of Louis CK's posts about Cook in the article and added a link. MrBlondNYC 22:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Lower than vandalism

"His loquacious trickery redefines common human experiences into a "unique" slang vocabulary." Is this a joke? Ninety percent of Cook's fanbase don't know what loquacious means. And is "found art" referring to the Louis C.K. incidents? Someone needs to delete this entire article and re-write it.--Hypermagic 21:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I altered that paragraph slightly. It's actually a direct quote from a Salon.com review, and it seems a bit biased. I agree that the article needs an overhaul, if only because it's not current. For example, the HBO special and Tourgasm, along with his film are all talked about in the future tense.--Trypsin 02:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

A:F6

I do not think that when you search for A:F6, that you are redirected to this page. It is true that on October 14, 2006, he had made a joke about some dude on UTube that sang A:F6, but in no way does it show the relevance of A:F6 to Dane Cook. I think an article should be started about A:F6. However, I do not have enough information to start one; all that I know is that A:F6 is some random person that had a piece of paper with A:F6 on it and kept singing it for ten minutes. signed: .Chewka.

all you know is what you think- nobody did that until dane cook made the joke. did you read the thing you deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmmmmaaaasssoon (talk • contribs) 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The joke on Saturday Night Live about A:F6 was that Dane Cook was talking about the kinds of odd things that get made for, posted to, and popularized by YouTube (correct spelling), and he said that you could probably punch in something as random as A:F6 and find a guy with that on his chest, chanting that over and over. And lo and behold, as one might have predicted, multiple people posted such a video. What I don't know is whether Dane Cook seeded that or simply counted on someone rushing to make one while the broadcast was yet on the air, but it's pretty certain that Mmmmmaaaasssoon is right that the videos happened because of Dane Cook's joke (either as his setting it up personally or as others responding just as he expected). Lawikitejana 07:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

thank you. --Mmmmmaaaasssoon 11:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Citing Sources

Hey Guys. I just wanted to point that somewhere in the article it claims that Dane Cook has over 2 milliom myspace friends. This is untrue. He has over 1 million. It is stuff like this that makes Wikipedia unreliable. Any information that is put into an article must be verifiable. IF not, get rid of it. Also, please try and read the information your citing. Peace. RyanDaniel 09:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Death

If he in fact did die, put in a reference instead of having a revert war. He's alive until proven dead (and is there is a reference put it in the article int he death section and include him in Deaths in 2006. --Wizardman 01:26, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

He's not dead, some giggling forum kids found a death article generator and are amusing themselves with it. Observe: http://anythinggoeshere.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/actor_new_zealand.php

I suggest locking this until people get over it.--Tossrock 01:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Tossrock lol

Went and requested protection until those vandals go away. --Wizardman 17:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

No death, the world isn't that lucky.

lol —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.46.113.50 (talk) 16:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

I have proof he did not die

I have proof he did not die. My proof is that he appeared at the live event "Comic Relief" on November 18, 2006. That was two days after his alleged "death". --User:Uber Cuber

We knew the death was fake a couple days ago, don't worry. that's why there's a lock on the article in the first place. --Wizardman 03:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Exact number of MySpace friends necessary?

"To date, Cook has 1,655,823 fans listed as friends on his profile."

Wouldn't "over 1.6 million" suffice, and eliminate the need to frequently update this statistic? SeanMon 04:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC) (sorry I forgot to sign, AGAIN)

Absolutely. —bbatsell ¿? 04:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Sangwich?

I really like the part where it says he calls a sandwich a "sangwich". It goes on to say that he calls a chicken sandwich a "chicken sangwich". I was wondering what he calls a tuna sandwich? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.175.182.25 (talk) 17:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

I like the part where the anonymous user is such a chicken sangwich that she can't even log in or sign her name. BabuBhatt 21:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Image

Why is there no image for this article? I don't really understand the policies wikipedia uses for it's images... Is there a reason why this can't be used? [3] -Mike Payne 09:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

where's the album?

i see no mention of Dane's music album. i think it should at least be mentioned, at least in discography. it's not in the article though. somebody add it, or at least explain why not. Jibba-Jabbaman

mother

is Dane Cooks mother, Donna Cook, dead? im just wondering because at the end of Vicious Circle it says "in memory of my mother". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.185.163.37 (talk) 20:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Yes. He mentioned it in his podcast. She passed away in 2006 from cancer. I don't know all of the details, however. -- Ubergenius 15:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

SNL

Hands down, the worst opening monologue on SNL ever delivered: Dane Cook, first episode of the 32nd season. The guy rambled on for 10 minutes with absolutely no jokes in it. This should be counted as a record or achievement or even as trivia.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.62.136.127 (talk • contribs) 

Roman Clergyman trying to pass himself of as a "Humble Christian Rocker"...

The only thing funny about this guy's antics, are the people in the audience who think it is.

It's been a few years since I've had to deal with people with some kind of "Jesus complex": those who think that they are unquestionably morally just, and like to think how their beliefs are being threatened, and who like to play the "humble", self-righteous victim; they take for granted that their "universalist" worldview is somehow the moral or even intellectual standard, and complain when others take offense to their "kindness".

For him- as well as his laughing sheep audience, it's not ok for anyone to question his Roman-doctrine monotheism, but it is perfectly ok for him to make fun of other people's moral understanding concerning universal unity and reincarnation.

If there is any cosmic justice, may he be reincarnated after he passes, as a humanitarian humanist aid worker, not some "religious alternative rocker" that he seems to think he is.

An angry clergyman pathetically trying to tug the heart-strings of the young generation; and he thinks he can do it, just because he is still young too.

What gets me more is how specific an audience his "comedy" aims at. And what personally offends me is how he has the nerve to pretend that his camp is under attack...there are more than 2 billion of them! They don't seem to be going anywhere....but of course, it's ok for them to try to convert us...such a moral tragedy... Le Anh-Huy 02:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I can only assume you are referencing his skit about the guy in line who sneezed on him. If this is the case, then you really need to calm down. If anyone is getting life advice from a comedy skit, then they really need to evaluate themselves before any blame can be placed on Cook. His job is to get laughs, and he did that... Mission accomplished. Beyond that skit, I've never seen him proclaim any moral superiority... In fact, in other skits in previous shows he has heavily ridiculed the Catholic church... It all comes down to comedy, what brings laughs. I doubt very much that he feels a need to "convert" anyone to a religion he makes regular fun of. -- 72.85.227.18 15:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)