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Happy First Edit Day!

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 ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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	Wishing Wiki alf a very Happy First Edit Day! Have a fantastic day! From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee

Eddie 02:54, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Blimey, what a genuinely nice surprise, I had forgotten that it was that time come round again. Many thanks for the cheering the day along. Excellent :) --Alf ^melmac 07:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Hooray for Alfie! KOS | talk 07:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day Wiki alf!

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	Wishing Wiki alf a very Happy First Edit Day! Have a fantastic day! From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee

--RobNS 14:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

And a lovely day it was too, thanks very much for the kind thought :) --Alf ^melmac 07:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Did I miss all the festivities? Happy day-after-first-edit-birthday, erm, day! – B.hotep ^u/_t• 18:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Dude, did you bring a knife, I've been waiting to tuck into that little cake up there, suppose I could do without one...--Alf ^melmac 18:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, not allowed knives at the moment. Too many targets... ;) – B.hotep ^u/_t• 19:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Funnies

[1] Enjoy Alfie. KOS | talk 22:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Alf chuckles and thanks KOS

KOS apologizes to Alf for missing him on Skype, but he is there now, so...

It's been awhile...

It's been awhile since talked. Have this virtual refreshment, on me :D . Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 13:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Alf rushes off in glee to fetch the wide milk-shake straw.

An Alf sighting!! Quick mate, IRC Skype, come now don't be stingy. KOS | talk 13:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

No good, no good - at work again, is all work no play = Alf is dull alien.--Alf ^melmac 13:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Never dull my friend. Never ever ever ever!!!!!1!111! Have a lovely day at work Sir Alf. :D KOS | talk 13:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow!, it's officially "lets fancruft Led Zeppelin" day. I guess the earlier pint was sort of a celebration of such a special event :). I will have to have a few myself 156.34.142.110 18:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Does a day go by without someone putting "THEY'RE THE BEST GODARN BAND IN THE WORLD"? Hope the beer helped.--Alf ^melmac 11:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Got a minute

Found a rogue on the Genesis article who considers WP:ENGVAR and "experiment". I suspect 'anti-anon' resentments and prejudice. Could you eye in if you have a minute. Thanks! "Libs" 142.167.77.38 12:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Genisis is !!?? emits a small un-Alf-like whimper . I'll rv it next time and note their talk page if they persist. I think the 'all anons are bad' filters are on that editor's view.--Alf ^melmac 12:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, and slightly worrying, how quickly you assume I have blinkers on. You appear to know "Libs" which makes it rather sad that he/she does not make themself known to the rest of us. :) Abtract 13:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Since you were reverting every edit of theirs without any good reason, I did assume blinkers. I am surprised you haven't seen Libs around, they edit more than any user with an account that I know.--Alf ^melmac 13:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I am sure the above editor has "Abstract" on his Drivers License??? In the end, an IP is WAY more identifiable than a make-believe Wiki-handle :D . Anons built Wiki... and anons will actually make it an encyclopedia... someday. BTW, Sir Alfred...You mispelled Genesis... twice... tee hee hee And you call yerselve and Aministratour?? All editors should be AnalONS :D . Ahoy! 142.167.80.253 13:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I hurry to get it done, make two typos, get corrected, go back to check if it matter, take five times as long getting there. Shoot me now, save the rest the pain ;) --Alf ^melmac 13:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Your speed of response is beginning to amuse me ... if you look closely at the edits in question you will see that it started with me making a constructive edit [2](argue with it if you like but it is clearly intended as a constructive edit). The anon IP then reverted my edit in total with no attempt to explain why [3](I was afterall using standard English so how could I know what he meant?). Assuming it was a passing schoolboy, I reverted that rv as an "experiment" [4]a term I use a lot when it doesnt look like vandalism but just a schoolboy prank)[5]. The IP then rv me again so I called it vandalism ... and so on. You were the first person to mention "consensus". Where did I go wrong? Abtract 13:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

You both went wrong in not talking to each other, which would have resolved the issue much earlier. I can see why it happened from both sides. I assumed you had the "all ips are bad" blinkers on as much as you assumed it was a passing schoolboy trying to undo decent edits, Libs thought you were one of the rogue anti-UK English editors, let's call it a day at that.--Alf ^melmac 13:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

So let me check if I have this right ... you jumped to an incorrect conclusion about me without checking my edit history, Libs jumped to an incorrect conclusion about me without checking my edit history, and I jumped to a conclusion (vandalism but I called it experiment to be kind) that I couldn't check because anons have no edit history ... I think I will take that as an apology and "call it a day" as you suggest. :) Abtract 13:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Got a minute part IIa

I forget the PUI protocol for stuff like this [[Image:Charlie 1981.jpg]]? The uploader claims self-work. I've seen that picture a hundred times in a book that was published following the Stones 1981 NA tour. Name/author escapes me now and I am not near any resources to look it up. We don't have it here. I actually owned that book myself 25 years ago. But from 25 years ago to today there is a lot of smoke n fog and I can't remember anything about the book details.... other than that picture was definintely in it :D . Ahoy! 156.34.210.255 00:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, might it have been a publicity shot? Even so the licence would be wrong, it's been uploaded as PD, I'll have to leave some questions on the editor's talk page.--Alf ^melmac 19:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Got a minute part IIb

I am finding them all over today. SaintJohnNB (talk · contribs) (who also edits under the IP 74.106.31.66) has been on an edit frenzy on the Saint John, New Brunswick article. At first it was copyvio images with false tags(along with a little vandalism on a "rival city" article) But he seems to have learned his ways and is pulling images from commons. But in several of his last edits he has been doing a a lot of copy/paste of text from external websites that are related to the city. He is including the links along with with the copy jobs but... none the same... it's still a copy/paste job of copyvio content from an external website. There have been so many edits over the last few days I can't keep track of whats original(if any) and what's illegal. Any place I can report this and have more/better eyes look over what's being done. Thanks! Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 17:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Argh, Hi Libs :) If there is a clean version to revert to, that's route number one. If it were new then {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.WhereItCameFrom.tld/}} to get it speedied, otherwise list on Wikipedia:Copyright problems, where there are more eyes and brains that the pair of us. Thanks.--Alf ^melmac 19:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Beatiful South, How Long.jpg)

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Image deleted as How Long's a Tear Take to Dry? was never written.--19:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

What is it about "Anti-anon" Weekends Alf?

First, thanks for your advice on my 'got a minutes'. I am about to check out for the night. It's been a pain of an "anti-anon" day.must be a weekend thing :) This little paraoid npa just made me laugh[6]... now that's funny. On the other hand... I tried mightily to do a "virtuosic" NPOV clean on the Heavy metal music article. I backed my edits up on A)The guitarist project has deemed the word 'virtuoso' as unencyclopedic... do not use... fancruft. I've read lots of their discussions on the topic and I tend to agree with their concensus... it's teeny-cruft POV. and... B) Wikipedia's own history on the subject: articles like guitar virtuoso, guitarists who are virtuosos, guitar gods, list of guitar virtuoso Virtuosi who play guitar... even a Category:Guitar virtuoso have been turfed or re-directed as uncitable, unencyclopedic POV fancruft. And rightly so... . The heavy metal page still had snippets of the childish word throughout it's text and I did a noble NPOV cleanup of it. And then I did it again. And... then I did it again. My adversary is one; User:DCGeist. This particular user has had many an edit war over at the "metal" article. And... over time... has taken ownership of it. Despite my very clear edit summary I found rv summaries like this one DCGeist does have 1 redeeming quality which I do admire depite his anti-anon stance.... he rv's "Big Daddy Kindrocker" at every turn... possibly using sockpuppets to do sodid I say that :D However, persistent rv of a more than valid edit is a piss off and I may have to shade a few rules to stand my "more than solid" NPOV ground. For now though.... an Ale... an overdue walking of the dog... and a good nights sleep. You need to take time off from work... so you can get back to work here... :). Ahoy good Sir! 156.34.230.106 04:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

PS...make that a double!!! Oh well, at least he didn't use a sockpuppet to do itdid I say that :D 156.34.221.29 04:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

In point of fact, the anon has not "backed [his/her] edits up on" the points mentioned above. Anon has never addressed the issue on the Talk page, and has simply reverted the language with which the article recently passed FAR, making in edit summaries the ridiculous and easily refutable claim that the word "virtuoso" constitutes "'teen magazine' cruft text." There may well be a reasonable argument to make on behalf of using different language, but the anon has never come close to making it before the third-party communication above. We eagerly await his/her responsible participation in the article itself.—DCGeist 04:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Y'know what... the more I think of it... the more annoyed I get. I am not usually a spoiled loser... especially when I know I'm right and Wikipedia will prevail in the long run... but... I have been unlogged for a long time. And I think I have at least 1 "logged in" edit in me. A "poor-loser" edit. As you may know I was/am/was.. whichever... a VandalProof user. I have v. 1.36 of that little gem. I think I might have to fire it up one last time... build up a mighty blacklist and load it into the system for all my other VP brother/sisterhood to share and use. Gee, who shall be under "anti-vandal" scruntiny? I have a "personal" blacklist which I keep very up to date. I think it's time this list was shared with the rest of the Wikipedia anti-vandal community. Naaahhhhhh!!!! I'm just kidding :D. I would never stoop so low as to log in... just typing this was all the vent I needed. Maybe :D . thanks for the rent of the talk page space. If I wrote it on my own... nobody would ever see it.... even if I wrote it on the one with all the barnstars! G'night! 156.34.221.29 04:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I know it's a p.i.t.a. guys but raising this word specifically on the talk page would not be a bad solution to achieving a standing resolution, particularly if the case is, like Libs (the anon) says from their experience on guitar virtuoso, guitarists who are virtuosos, guitar gods, list of guitar virtuoso Virtuosi who play guitar and Category:Guitar virtuoso have already established a form of consensus. I must admit that if I saw the word appearing in the Motörhead articles without a cite, I'd be tempted to shoot it, though the article having recently passed FA (well done on that peeps btw - I'm 'off of FA' - too snarky an atmosphere for me to work nicely there) obviously means that a number of eyes have passed over it, and I'd be more inclined to make an attempt to establish what is seen as consensus as agreed consensus there than on a less high traffic page.--Alf ^melmac 06:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I guess I have to give up the NPOV/Anti-cruft battle on the heavy metal article. The owner rv'd back to his own preferred wording and then ranted a confusing anti-anon speech on the talk page about how right he was to break 3RR to maintain his ownership. You know what's funny? I loaded up the latest version of VandalProof and dl'd the latest software vandal blacklist and lo and behold.... guess whose name was already blacklisted?? :D . I guess I am not the only one whose had their positive contributions deleted by Captain POV :D. That little discovery made my day a little less peeved. Time to sit in the sun, Bar-B-Q a roast beast and down a thick dark ale. "Wiki" loses today. Maybe tomorrow I can help win back its "pedia". The 2 words are much better when combined. Ahoy! 156.34.208.47 21:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Great Pyramid

Alf, what do you think about the protection? If this guy is a sock has he been blocked? Should I drop the protection back? I'm open here. JodyB _talk 17:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Honest, I have not a clue what's going to work with this one. Tried being polite, tried leaving same message on each account that popped up, tried blocking the accounts with "no account creation" etc. all those still leave us with the person returning to revert to that particular version, so I reckon they're using AOL-like ip provider, or just reset the ip each time. We do have regular editors who want to keep working on the page week by week so a full protection doesn't fit the bill for me.--Alf ^melmac 17:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll drop it back.

Motörhead Portal

Hey, thanks for the assistance with the Motörhead Portal! Arundhati lejeune 18:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

No prob, I was bothered for a mo' when I saw a different release date on blabbermouth for the live album, but they've been wide of the mark before Alf remembers and grins at the Lemmy's bi-sexual debacle and amazon reckon the same, so I'm happy with that. I've encouraged some editors to pile in and I'm glad to see two have already reponded, Libs (the anon) appears to be checking over the formatting of the band members as I type :) --Alf ^melmac 18:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Möhead

Thanks for the invite. I have been on a kick lately over infobox formatting. I actually took the time to read the musician infobox intructions... GASP!... and have been (picky) replacing "br's" between genres with the proper comma spacing and rm'ing wikilinks from years that don't have specific month/day attached (as the guidelines say) I will assume the Mohead project will follow these formatting guidelines... right? Also, unfortunately, the guitarist box has been deprecated and replaced with the highly unattractive musician box and its useless(and grotesque) colour schemes. Only about 3 of the most anal musician project members actually know what the gross colours mean. You only get a choice of 2 for indivuals(they are in discussion about adding an equally useless third option) as far as background goes and the result... no matter which one you choose.... is an ugly colour which means absolutely nothing to the passing Wiki reader. Or, for the most part, most of the editors who list themselves as Musician project members. Most do not add the proper selection. If I find some time I will update the Mo-head guitarist articles with the supposed "better choice" for boxes. Don't be surprised if you see me leave the shitty colour option out. All of them are poor to look at and, like I said earlier... useless except to 2-3 prickish music project twits.did I say that!! :D 156.34.142.110 18:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Did you say what? :p chuckles I was sort of aware that the current infoboxes were due for demolition, but I wasn't hurrying to the scene myself... Highly unattractive, is that a trade off for better information, better navigation for the reader or what? :s I think leaving out shitty colour options sounds good to me :)--Alf ^melmac 18:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

"a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters" They're so busy trying to figure out which background and colour to use... they never ever discuss the most important question... "Why are we using retarded colours?". Either you are a group... Light blue... or an individual... navy blue (or whatever) and be done with it already. In the time they've wasted spinning their wheels over backgrounds and colours... 5000 music related articles were vandalised. Some of the most anal of the "colourists" are the ones who've rm'd all the other infoboxes in favour of their rainbow pride box. And, in the end, the least productive of the lot because of their wheel spinning. They need a leader Alf. 156.34.142.110 19:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a copy cat

Sometimes people actually read my edit summaries... follow up on them... take the bull by the horns and run with it. a libs clone. If only the virtuoso teeny-crufters on the heavy metal article took the time to watch and learn how to do it right! Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 19:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

"repair formatting as set by Wikipedia Music Project guidelines + cleanup re: WP:FLAGCRUFT" Alf chuckles

The poor girl got confused and did a copy/paste of one of my edit summaries. All of her edits were simple flag deletes. And now she's been infiltrated by a couple of FLAGCRUFT supporters and has decided to go and put them back in. It's a shame really. The tweener that convinced her that flags look pretty is one of the "virtuoso" half-wits from over at the heavy metal article. Figures! :D . I had a clone for awhile anyways. I flounder and then I lobster. I won't choke on my homebrew Helles over the loss :D . Ahoy! 156.34.212.94 21:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Quick question

Is this a PROD or an AfD?? It had 3 refs which are less notable than the band itself. If I had caught it on "make-day" I would have thrown a Speedy D on it. Thoughts? 156.34.212.94 20:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, total output = a video (received extensive airplay on a national cable channel), an EP, an LP and another video that quite a few people like... I'd go for AfD on that, none of the output reached anywhere in the charts but were presumably "proper" releases.--Alf ^melmac 21:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll prod it for now and see if it gets any attention. Wjile I have your attention... d'ya think you could s_prot the Keith Emerson page? It's been hit by a couple of starry eyed crufters trying to peacock him up into the heavens as the greatest k-boardist of all time. They have peacock refs but don't ever seem to want to take the time to add them properly. I broached ahem, 3RR, ahem with clear edit summaries on what was wrong but they were ignored. I gave up on it and the war continued between the crufters and a couple of west-coasters. The crufter earned himself a block. It's not worth the policing. The crufter(s) are on again/off again editors. I expect if the page wasn't accessible to them they'd just get bored and get back to their schoolwork or their house chores that their Mums n Dads have given them :D . I've updated a couple of M_head guitarist pages.minus the rainbow I will get to the others as the day passes. Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 12:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You prolly won't like my solution - added the cites and asked them to provide the authors names to complete the cite.--Alf ^melmac 14:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks OK by me.you're a great diplomat Had I accepted any my my RfA prompts back when I was a humble login I would have eventually lost the mop from overuse of the banhammer :D . I like where I wiki-am right now. 8X.XX is actually very cordial. It's the starry eyed, currently blocked IP whose bent on peacock praise and worship. He'll be back in about 15 hours. And I expect he will prefer his own wording over anything else. Time will tell. 156.34.142.110 15:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

PS earned m'self a Rick_K token last night. It stroked my 'non-Wiki'd ego' for about 40 seconds. All hail the anons with the Hoovers! 156.34.142.110 12:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Is that with oak leaf clusters or just the bar :p ?

No Clusters or tassles or french ticklers of any kind. 156.34.142.110 15:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

While I have your attention... yet again... we really need to find a new image for Mr. Campbell. Yours looks OK but its its small and the rainbow box is unforgiving with those types of pics. I detest Flickr with a passion as I have found huge numbers of "public" images on that site that are just copy/paste/steal jobs... lifting pics from websites, claiming ownership, and then copyvio sharing it with all the world. Wiki is starting to be saturated with these pics and it's going to be a problem down the road. Any ideas on where to tap a better Phil pic? He has promo pics from his gear makers that could be "loosely" fair-used if the gear maker is captioned under the image. But that is stretching so "FU" thin that if Abu, Moe or any of the other pic hunters spot its "policy-stretch" they will rm it pretty quick. And kudos to them if they do.I would never do anything dishonest....blush.. :D . One will turn up soon I hope. Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 15:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I did have a trawl through Robbo's site today for exactly the same reason, I doubt any good image (licence-wise good that is) will be uploaded for either person until a public appearance co-incides with a wikipedian holding a camera ready for the event, so that may be quite some time off. The current members won't be too difficult to bag as a group and individually, just have to suffer one concert not banging my head in lieu of looking after the camera :s --Alf ^melmac 16:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

OH NO! not again

The Society for the Sainthood of Martin Turner has returned to cruft up the Wishbone Ash article with as many Turnerisms as they can muster. This includes altering the proper formatting of the infobox and deleting free-use images that they don't particularly care for. Can you assist. The article has been serenely quiet for awhile. The Turner-crufters are about to plume the article from an encyclopedia entry to a teen fanzine. I hate it when that happens! 156.34.142.110 15:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Omg my head hurts after reading that page, all those CAPS WRITERS MAKING IMPOTENT [sic] POINTS - urggh. Do you think creating a stub at the redlinked title would help ameliorate despite their wishes for everything to be on the one page (Omg² how many times do I rant about this thing not being paper and not for the writers but for the readers?).--Alf ^melmac 16:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Right or wrong, I created that article. I hope it helps (though if it doesn't I have a delete button too :p).--Alf ^melmac 16:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Please Sir... more... more help please. I asked User:Moeron for assistance with the W_Ash page. It was looking good but the crufter return this morn and started his Turnerisms on it. Basically undoing all of Moeron's edits and and deleting the valid Wash URL from the infobox. I played with him for awhile until Steel359 semi_p'd the page. I hoped that would be the end of it. Unfortunately the crufter has returned in the guide of DiamnondJack (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and re-did his damage. The semi_p puts it beyond my range now so Jack is free to roam. Can you lock the page down at Steel359's version? Or better yet... chain a stone onto D_Jack and sink 'im :D . Merci! and Ahoy!revoir :). 156.34.142.110 13:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

At the moment, it's showing Scarian's edit with DiamondJack yet to make a third edit which could be considered as a 3rr. I think this editor may have to learn the hard way, I've temporarily added the page to my watchlist.--Alf ^melmac 13:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

He rv'd the infobox again and added the Turner website(which is essentially a different band and already in the MTWA article you created yesterday). I was going to do up a 3RR report.... which I HATE doing because they are a royal pain in the ass to compile and submit. You could save me a lot of headache by giving him the chop. On a different note I found a freebee image for Phil but the quality was very blurry and his face was blocked by a microphone. I will keep looking. 156.34.142.110 14:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Their last and previous edit don't fully fit 3rr, I zapped the link from the infobox as it is on the MTWBA article already, but see no overt harm leaving it in external as there is probably some cross over of information on the bands there (though to be honest I didn't go through checking).--Alf ^melmac 14:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd has sold more than 250 million albums worldwide, not 12 million like it's mentioned in the article...Christo jones 19:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

My edit was fine, you're seeing some vandalism I missed, I'll fix.--Alf ^melmac 19:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Alf with thanks

Thank you for all that Alf, and sorry for late reply. I was just passing through the site, saw the edit war, and butted in a bit. As you've done all the hard work, I'll try and follow through your request asap! 86

Cheers, thank you kindly.--Alf ^melmac 21:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Signing

Sorry, forgot to sign the barnstar/comment, I was just chuffed at being able to give a barnstar. Sorry again! Scarian^Talk 10:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh no apologies needed at all, just wanted to draw your attention to it so you could sign with your own signature :) --Alf ^melmac 12:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Ohh a barnstar. KOS looks around and sees naught. Where is the shiny at????

On the deserving candidate's talk page, btw can you ask ma when supper will be ready, I'm getting kinda peckish :) --Alf ^melmac 14:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm Ma ain't around, but you can have some of my Cheez-Its, they taste pretty good crumbled in a hot mug of tomato soup. KOS | talk 14:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Motorhead, Toronto 1982

Ever see that video? A friend gave me a downloaded copy of it last night. I was at that show. About mid way through when it shows the downfront crowd and they're all a bunch a greasy haired-pimple faced-"acting like strereotypical metalhead" idiots.... I am NOT one of them. For a brief second thou if you look a couple of heads behind the "twit line" you may glimpse a very distinguished "Tony Iommi lookalike" acting very cool and stoic. I may or may not be that person :) . And at least one of the devil horned hands that gets thrust into the air is me I'm sure of it. :D I was overcome by the swell of intelligence around me... it just felt "right" to do I was very pleased to get that little clip... 49 minutes of pure classic speed metal. Those were the days. 156.34.142.110 14:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I've only seen pictures of the video, not the video itself. I've tried finding myself on the 25 & Alive Boneshaker to no avail, I'm there somewhere though, :) although I don't look like any sort of intelligent sabbath guitarists, more like your common or garden hobbit :) --Alf ^melmac 09:26, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

An overdue re-direct required

Can you throw a re-direct on this article: Heavy metal genealogic tree and point it to the main Heavy metal music article? I have no idea how that little piece of shite has lasted so long here? It's just a regurg of the main HM article with snippets of List of heavy metal genres and List of heavy metal bands blending in... and subsequently contradicting those other articles which are actually pseudo referenced. Thanks! 156.34.142.110 19:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, after a little 'stir-up', Admin Centric locked multiple spelling variations as re-directs. Oh how I will be able to sleep good tonight knowing that's been taken care of... :D . That's me hole-n-de-arse statement for the night. 156.34.209.136 03:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Excellent result, thanks Centrx.--Alf ^melmac 10:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

A troll we've discussed before

An editor we've talked about before continues his strange habit of 10 vandalism => 1 valid edit. {{User}Josh Allain}} has a long history of edits which are so bizarre it's really hard to fathom out where his mind set is at? Todays vendetta, as with most days, is to delete all of the interlanguage links from every article he opens. He's been warned a hundred times and 99% of his edits are rv'd. It's why it's so strange. Every now and then there is a snippet of positive contribution. And then there's days like today. It is my belief that his days with "edit this page" have come to an end. Thoughts? 156.34.142.110 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I just stumbled upon this and had to go see for myself. Wow -- quite a record of being reverted! Has anyone reported that guy to WP:AIV lately? —Travis^talk 11:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm this one's trickier. I did comment on one their earlier edits to Living Colour (an American band using the spelling 'colour' hmmm, ok) as it may have been possible they were copy pasting back and forth but didn't see anything below the categories. You're the occasional edit is good, not sure how "heavy metal" Hendrix is, but Bo Didley's ok being a black rock musician, which were yesterday's edits. Momentary lapses of reason combined with not checking their last edit against the previous diff or just iffy on the ides of the month? (though July's ides is the fifteenth) There might be some hope for this one if there aren't too many days like the 13th.--Alf ^melmac 10:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

You are much more patient then I good Sir :D . I will try and absorb your AGF on the scoundrel. BTW, your recent rv of Zephead999 on the Led Zeppelin article... I reported that user to ANI earlier this week as an obvious sockpuppet of Uber-blocked-dickhead User:Dragong4/User:Zabrak. After sitting dormant for awhile it got the reply... "yeah you're probably right"... and somone else tagged the userpage as a possible sock(he's an obvious sock) and then.... nothing else was done. He's still active, still vandalising. I never have much confidence in ANI reporting so I do it very very rarely. In this case, as with past experience, I wasted my time.... SIGH!.

SO... a garden troll in the Boneshaker crowd eh? Troll resemblance must grant you clear open space when you're moshing in the pit? I always joke that my wife had 'love at first sight' for me in the early 80s because I was going through a "Tony" phase. An inside joke for those who know us as she does not like heavy metal and really doesn't care who Iommi is. She's more into comedy which is a good thing because these days I look more like Basil Fawlty... :D . 156.34.219.175 12:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Further, Good sir, do you think you could tie an anchor around Zephead999 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s neck for me :D . He is uncivily, dickheadly, 3RR POV trolling all over the place today. He's just not worth the tedious 3RR jargon. He's a Dragong4/Zabrak sock that needs to be put in a drawer. A community ban should be in place for this A**HOLE. 156.34.142.110 19:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

That account went vandal. It got blocked.--Alf ^melmac 20:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

A collective sigh and thank you on behalf of the masses. Although the user immediately returned as a rotten old IP... damn those anons :D . Dragong/Zabrak/Zepjerk is one of the absolute worst trolls I've crossed paths with on Wikipedia. Powerful bad medicine he is... POWERful bad! Thanks for the intervention.

PS... the same friend who gave me the Toronto vid also gave me D/L'd copies of Deaf Not Blind, the 2004 Rock Am Ring show, the Inside Motorhead doc, the Stage Fright double disc set + the Ace of Spades-Classic albums episode. I am not getting any work done at all I'm just toting my laptop around and watching Motorhead all day. Did I ever say how much I love my job? Ahoy! 156.34.219.175 23:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah, at least we don't have to deal with a drawerfull. Now watching Motorhead videos at work - that's something that wouldn't go do well at my end - shame. I'll just have to be content in the knowledge that you can :p --Alf ^melmac 23:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Remember ol' Zephead999?... they never stay away for long... see: Pie76 (talk · contribs). I bet my bottom barnstar that we are seeing the rebirth of Dragong4/Zabrak/Zephead999. Guaranteed!. Some bad editors have such BAD habits... it's almost too easy finding them. 156.34.142.110 16:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

By the last few edits I am definitely right.... I think? Pie76 is Zephead... fer sure... Different name... same arse.Pie76 that is... not me :D 156.34.221.99 22:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Dumb Question about Suitability of Content

I've kind of given up on wikipedia new page contributions, because, after compiling an article on a published author, citing references and so forth, my page gets deleted because some wikipedia moderator decides the subject or author is not significant to him (or her). Meanwhile, Pokemon characters get featured on the front page and have multipage biographies. Can you give me a better idea about how to appeal these random prunings?0 Memobug on 17July2007 6PM Pacific

There are some guidelines on notability, where there is a section about what should happen if there is a concern about notability, could you tell me then name of the article you created so I can check this was looked at, as an administrator, I am able to call up deleted pages to see what happened.--Alf ^melmac 07:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

This shoud be of assistance to you Sir Alf. [7] KOS | talk 15:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I am at a loss, requesting advice

I was trying not to be a pest this week too late :D but I discovered a cornucopia of bad/incorrect gf edits(intermingled with genuine ones) and there are so many it's too much task for one lowly anon to retrace and cleanup. Perhaps you can provide direction/path. IP 71.139.19.12 (talk · contribs) who also edits under the logged name Number87 (talk · contribs) has been on an absolute spree adding "category:rock operas" to hundreds of pages. Problem is... only 5% of his additions are truly classed as "rock operas". I think the user is confused between "concept album" and "rock opera" thinking they are the same thing. To top it off he is adding the category to the individual songs not just the incorretly labeled albums which... and I could be wrong... but in my opinion the correct category for individual songs from albums which truly are 'rock operas' would not be 'cat:rock opera' but the more specific "category:songs from rock operas". Like I said I could be wrong in my assumption. It still leaves hundreds of articles incorrectly "cat'd" and to make matters worse... the user took the time to add a {default-sort} temp. which is actually a semi-contructive organisation of things. Trying to follow behind and cleanup after this user is a very tedious and time consuming task. But, a complete admin rollback of all of the user's edits does in fact rm a few good edits. I'll stress "a few" because that's just what it would be... only about 5%-8%. I noted on the "Number87" talk page that the user has been slammed in the past for improper/undesired/unknowledgeable "listing". It appears he has no cat. understanding either. What's the path of best "Wiki-improvement"? 156.34.219.175 02:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes indeed there have been previous comments, which don't appear to be getting through. Probably needs an RfC for long term settlement, between what I expect to be busy workload today, I'll go through the conts and fix the obvious ones.--Alf ^melmac 07:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

As always... much appreciated Good Sir! It's an overpowering number of edits to plow through. I don't believe songs should be cat'd as albums and... the errors I picked off first... Rush's 2112 and Hemispheres albums aren't even true concept albums, let alone all high n mighty Rock operas :D . It was those edits that tipped me on to all the other blunders. When I saw how many edits there were I just said ... UGH!!. 156.34.219.206 08:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, ip edits now checked over - why on earth didn't they just use Category:Songs from musicals, which would have fitted a lot of those pages a whole heap better. Grrr. Will do named user over this afternoon/this evening (depending on workload).--Alf ^melmac 11:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

FYI, IP 71.139.19.12 (talk · contribs) is now reinserting the cat back into articles again. Caught him on Rock music. I see he's starting to label Beatles albums/songs again. That's really gonna get the Beatles:Project member's panties in a bunch :D. 156.34.142.110 14:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thosehave been reverted and a message left on the editor's talk page. Thanks.--Alf ^melmac 14:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Done now, erm, thanks for that :p --Alf ^melmac 17:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Can I find 'em or can I find 'em??

And this ones a real piece of work. Check out the contribution history of Mezmerizer (talk · contribs). Long history short... this particular editor has had many an article AfD'd or Speedy D'd in his short existence. Persistent as he is... he has learned to re-create and then re-direct these "fairy tale" type articles(a few of them non-existent/non-verifiable music genres) as subpages of his own userpage. He then turns around and starts re-adding his once "dead links" back into article upon article upon article. Pretty tricky I must say. Regular editors peak in... see a blue link and not a red link and think, "hmm must be OK"... and then move on. He's added these userpage subs to quite a few articles already and seems bent on hitting as many as he can. Whats the procedure here? Is this an ANI?... an RfC?... it's getting more and more complicated the more and more articles he wikilinks with content that has been deemed unencyclopedic and unverifiable... thus compromising the resource value and verifiability of an ever growing number of articles that are already sponged to the max with uncited original research. It's frustrating to the point of maddening. Now what? 156.34.221.99 02:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Looking at their own list of what they've written I'm afraid it's those dreaded initials RfC.--Alf ^melmac 05:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I will re-compose my informal "Libsy" wording of the situation and post it in a way that can be read clearly(you understand my jargonisms so I tend to type conversationally)

If you have a minute, the Dragong4/Zabrak/Zephead999 sockpuppet is still causing trouble. this edit on a talk page earlier is his clear "modus operandi". [8] and [9] are also lovely little edits on user talk pages that are lacking in "Wiki-spirit". I'm giving you 3 days to cut his fingers off or I will :D . Jeez that gets old after awhile. You'd think he'd start changing his threats to something different. Is he up to a community ban yet? :D . It will be a day a fresh air when he gets popped. And then the next a a user who's even worse will take his place. This is a fun place :) . 156.34.221.99 08:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I notice that more than one user is already on the case and is building evidence for sockpuppetty previously-banned user needs banning information, I'd hate to step on their toes, but I have left a thought on the talk page of the article Dragong4/Zabrak/Zephead999 apparently doesn't want any bad words on.--Alf ^melmac 08:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Am I allowed to contribute to this? 156.34.221.99 10:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You mean with "see also Dragon4 and Zabrak", if they're known sockpuppeteers, yes fine, otherwise only as suspected puppeteers.--Alf ^melmac 10:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I was going to add Pie76 (talk · contribs) to the Zephead999 list and a "Note:see also User:Dragong4 and User:Zabrak for further information" blurb. Is that proper protocol for that query page or is that a full bore RCU type of situation? 156.34.142.110 12:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, even though we're sure, I'd still use "suspected sock" in there, as only RCU can confirm without any doubt.--Alf ^melmac 13:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Motörhead Project

Hi. I think the Project Page would be the best place to discuss improvements to articles. that way we will all have a common ground instead of chasing around each other's talk pages. Feel free to add or list any requests that are needed or anything that is necessary to work on. Arundhati lejeune 12:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Lovely, thanks, I wanted to add something last night and will later today, and then I had a formatting idea, which I didn't want to add until sure, nothing fantastic, just helpful :) --Alf ^melmac 13:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Nicolaus Copernicus

Page is now fully protected to avoid an edit-war. There is a dispution about this article, please add your opinion here consensus dispution. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 15:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, you may have already noted my previous comments on the page, I will try to reduce my thoughts there to something manageable for the purpose. I'm willing to bet good money that whatever consensus is arrived at 'the other party' will ignore and it will continue to have the (seemingly) everlasting German-Polish tug of war.--Alf ^melmac 15:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Then the others will be blocked for disruptive behavior. There are also neutral options, better some consensus than edit war. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 15:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Request for assistance

I've created consensus dispution in a good faith but look what Matthead does with it: [10] [11] He is blanking votes, changing question. Please I ask you for an assistance as you as an administrator. Thanks. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 16:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I warned him, but he continues in warring in consensus dispute, unbelievable ignorance. [12]. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 16:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Unlord_Lord_of_Beneath.jpg

I have tagged Image:Unlord_Lord_of_Beneath.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. BigrTex 20:18, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

This was used on the Joe Petagno page, but then editors decided it was representative, I guess. I'll zapp it, thanks.--Alf ^melmac 20:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the word-up about the Motorhead Wikiproject. ĤĶ51→^Łalk 21:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem. BTW, you may have noticed the project founder also added started Portal:Motörhead and White Line Fever (book) (which needs, well, nearly everything....) --Alf ^melmac 01:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Right, well, I'll get to work on the Portal as soon as I can. I'm actually going on holiday tomorrow morning, so I can't get to work on it until later in the week, but I'll definitely have some sort of input into it. I started the AC/DC portal, you might want to have a look through it to garner up some ideas for the Motorhead one. ĤĶ51→^Łalk 13:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

hungry?

Ali sits down and starts munching on alfie's newly grown orange hair :)