User:Mezmerizer/Talk

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The Rules
Yep. There are rules. I divided them up under two sections:

Section 1: Discussion Placement

  1. Anything related to any of my articles and any discussion on any page that relates to that article (talk page, deletion page) that you want to put here goes under the Article Discussion section.
  2. Anything related to any of my userpages and any discussion on any of those userpages talkpages that you want to put here goes under the Userpage Talk section.
  3. If it aint related to my articles or my userpages, place it under the Chat Room section.

Section 2:Content

  1. First off, no personal attacks!!! I will delete them when I see them, and I will send you a message notifying you about it.
  2. Second, Stay civil!!! See above.
I stress WP:CIVIL because it sucks being on the recieving end of uncivility. Trust me.
  1. Follow Section 1. It will cause me problems if you jumble everything up.
  2. Finally, NO VANDALIZING!!!!!. That goes for all of my userpages.
And remember this: If vou vandalize, your talk page becomes my trash can for vandalism. Read: If you vandalize, I'll move the vandalism to your talk page.

All right. Have fun! Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D


Article Discussion[edit]

Place anything related to the articles I have written here. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D

Reply[edit]

They don't need their own articles. They were also written unencyclopedic manner. Inhumer 14:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

OK then. Heres what Ill do... I shall Mezmerize you! My edits shall Mezmerize you!! My articles shall Mezmerize you!!! 19:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Problem solved. :D I shall Mezmerize you! My edits shall Mezmerize you!! My articles shall Mezmerize you!!! 19:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Its better to reply on the other persons talk page, not your own. Inhumer 14:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You should try and expand the Deathrash article some more. Inhumer 15:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Anonymos[edit]

A tag has been placed on Anonymos, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a user page from the main/article space. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 06:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Two things:

  1. "Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects..."

Not really. Heres what it also says: "Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion..."

  1. "...you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page..."

Doesnt work. I wrote the article for Anonymos once already, and I tried to object to its speedy deletion. it didnt work. They ignored me (as usual) and deleted it (as usual). I shall Mezmerize you! My edits shall Mezmerize you!! My articles shall Mezmerize you!!! 22:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

"...to the scarian guy, this article was made more than once. So obviously, its not some random daydream." - Yeah, that may be the case but the way it was written this time (I'm assuming that neither were written the exact same) made it seem like a dream. There were some sentences in there that gave that impression. I didn't mean to come off uncivil and I never once laughed at you... One of my motto's on Wikipedia is "Comment on content, not the contributor" and I stuck to that. Apologies if it seemed as though I was being a prick, but I honestly did not mean to offend you. I was attacking the content of the article, nothing and/or no one else. Is that alright? I appreciate your enthusiasm for Wikipedia. Take care of yourself buddy. ScarianTalk 20:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"Yeah, that may be the case but the way it was written this time (I'm assuming that neither were written the exact same) made it seem like a dream. There were some sentences in there that gave that impression." Yeah. Sorry if I gave you that impression.

"I didn't mean to come off uncivil..." Dont worry about it. I didnt mean to target you, anyway, because you did nothing wrong.

"...and I never once laughed at you..." True. That laughing thing was mainly aimed at Lugnuts and Mindraker.

"Apologies if it seemed as though I was being a prick, but I honestly did not mean to offend you." Understood. I did get a little offended by the "it's articles like these that make me want to drop what I'm doing on Wikipedia and go straight to Unencyclopedia and start all over again...", but at times, I can be hypersensitive, so dont sweat it.

"I was attacking the content of the article, nothing and/or no one else. Is that alright?" Yeah. That is. I just overreacted about the starting over thing. Considering I wrote the melodic metalcore article, I took your comments a little too personally.

"I appreciate your enthusiasm for Wikipedia." And I appreciate the apologys and your opinion (well, sort of, anyway ;])

"Take care of yourself buddy" You too, man. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 22:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you need any help with writing any new articles, friend? I feel bad about what's happened... especially after that other guy has just came in adding his opinion on melodic metalcore. I just wanna help in anyway possible. Just give me a shout if you need any help at all concerning new articles (Or just absolutely anything). ScarianTalk 22:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"...especially after that other guy has just came in adding his opinion on melodic metalcore" You mean this?: "That gave me a great laugh thanks =). I can't even believe how utterly nonsensical that article is. There are so, so, so many things wrong with it, one being that that isn't even a genre...melodic metalcore...please. Metalcore is already melodic by definition. It's watered-down melodeath. Anyways you're right that it should be deleted in a hurry." Yeah, this article will be deleted (sadly), but Ive written 15 other articles that I can be proud of. Losing this one hurts, though, as I spent a lot of time on it.

"Do you need any help with writing any new articles, friend?" I might work on making the recently deleted "list of metalcore bands" (also made by me AND met with considerable hostility, so that explains my overreaction) and turning it into a disambiguation page (as there already is a List of mathcore bands and a list of deathcore bands). But to do that, I'll need a List of moshcore bands. And I might need some help with that.

"I feel bad about what's happened..." Dont worry about it. Looking back, I've realized how much I've overreacted. But I was just getting over the loss of the List of metalcore bands article that I had made (considering there was a bit of hostility there, too), so then I come here and read some of the comments made (Im looking at you, Mindraker), and that just drove me over the edge. Since, you see, I spent a lot of time on those articles, so I had something like an "emotional bond" (lack of a better term) with them. So for that reason, I took the comments to heart when I shouldnt have.

Thanks for being a true friend. It helps... a lot. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 23:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey no worries. Ironically, one of the main notes about editing Wikipedia is: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.". I can understand about growing attached to your work - it happens to all of us - even in real life. But that's what you gotta remember - Wikipedia just ain't worth a damn getting fucked up about. We don't get paid and neither do we get thanked a hell of a lot. You put in as much effort as you want. Try, in a way, to take it as a compliment if people edit your work... they wanna help Wikipedia as much as you do.
Anyway, onto less depressing things... Might I recommend that you create an article that isn't a "list"? List's have a far greater chance of being deleted because there are WP:CAT. And try not to pick something that is a genre... maybe find out about a band with independent news articles written down about it and add it to Wiki? It would be much easier to prove their notability that way.
I shall leave you alone now. Thanks for the smiley! I'll dig something up for your hard work and good attitude towards receiving bullshit from pricks :-D Take care. ScarianTalk 09:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

"Ironically, one of the main notes about editing Wikipedia is: 'If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.' ... Try, in a way, to take it as a compliment if people edit your work... they wanna help Wikipedia as much as you do." Im alright w/ people editing my work, Im NOT OK w/ people laughing at my articles and being uncivil about it.

"Anyway, onto less depressing things... Might I recommend that you create an article that isn't a "list"? List's have a far greater chance of being deleted because there are WP:CAT. And try not to pick something that is a genre... maybe find out about a band with independent news articles written down about it and add it to Wiki? It would be much easier to prove their notability that way." All right. Thanks for the advice.

"Thanks for the smiley!" Youre welcome.

"I'll dig something up for your hard work and good attitude towards receiving bullshit from pricks :-D" Oh, thats all right. But thanks anyway.

"Take care." All right. You too. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 22:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

"hey friend i did a translation of Slam Death Metal article I wonder if I can put your links on the translated page

Arena Rock[edit]

I would've taken part in last nights discussion on that article but I was sleeping. Basically, the article is badly sourced [That's not an impression on your ability - so don't worry]. You need to find better sources unless you want it to get cut down. Opinions of writers from blog magazines still count as POV unfortunately. Try not to take the comments on the article's discussion page too personally. Libs [the 156.34 I.P. is incredibly experienced] and he is usually never wrong. Just try and assume good faith when he and Funeral try and clear up the article. People never try and attack you - they just want to try and help make Wikipedia and better place, and so do you :-) - Just try and keep a cool head in the future, people will respond better and recognise what you're saying. Don't hesitate to message me if you have any queries. ScarianTalk 14:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

"Libs [the 156.34 I.P. is incredibly experienced] and he is usually never wrong." Anyway, I almost didnt believe him when he said that he had over 50000 edits, but Ill take your word for it.

"Basically, the article is badly sourced [That's not an impression on your ability - so don't worry]." Actually, to be honest, I do need a better understanding of WP:RS.

"Try not to take the comments on the article's discussion page too personally... Just try and keep a cool head in the future" Sadly, Im a hothead here on Wikipedia. Im a LOTmore laid back in real life, but not on Wiki.

I actually asked Libs to rewrite the article again.

All right, man. Thanks for the advice. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 19:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Crossover thrash[edit]

Hey. I have deleted Crossover thrash per CSD G4. If you want to re-create this article, I suggest you find some reliable sources first and then present the userspace draft at WP:DRV. You are currently using Wikipedia forks as references, so you are actually citing the deleted Wikipedia article. Prolog 21:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Please follow the talk rules, BTW.

Anyway, I put it back. Feel free to delete it again, but I will rewrite it if you do so. But thanks for the update. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 22:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

extreme metal[edit]

you keep adding fusion genres (black/doom, death/doom, blackened death metal, ect.) into the sub-genre list. please stop, as they are clearly fusion genres.

and i guess you're right about groove metal. DragonDance (talk) 20:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

All right, the fusion genres thing is just a blatant misunderstanding bewteen the two of us. In this case, you deem "fusion genre" as a fusion of any two genres (which it is). In this case, though, I deem "fusion genre" as a fusion of an extreme metal subgenre and a non-extreme metal subgenre. Such fusion genres as blackened death metal, death/doom, black/doom, etc. are fusions of extreme metal subgenres. So thats why I moved them.

But Ill stop, though.

P.S. Thanks for following the talk page rules. :D Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 19:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Userpage Talk[edit]

Place anything related to my User Pages here. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D

User:Mezmerizer/Deathrash[edit]

There you go. Peacent 15:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :D I shall Mezmerize you! My edits shall Mezmerize you!! My articles shall Mezmerize you!!! 19:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Please, when you have an article in a user sub-page, use {{tl|unreferenced}} rather than {{unreferenced}} and [[:Category:death metal]] rather than [[Category:death metal]]. Otherwise, your user sub-pages show up in the category lists which usually is a bad thing.Garrie 05:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Chat room[edit]

Place anything not related to my User Pages or articles I have written here. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D

Adoption[edit]

Yes, i would be glad for you to show me the ropes here on wiki, I currently have basic knowledge on here and trying to make a half what acceptable user page and contributing to info boxes and updating them (as I find the systems of code interesting) (BeeTz)TuneNZ 08:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal[edit]

Hello Mezmerizer/Talk, you have received this notice because you have placed your name on the list of members of WikiProject Metal. We are currently looking to make the wikiproject more active, and in doing so, we need to have a list of active members on the wikiproject. If you wish to stay an active part of wikiproject metal, please add your username to Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal/Active Users. Conversely, if you wish to leave the wikiproject, please remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal/Members. Thank you.

Proposed deletion of Dropped B tuning[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Hardcore tuning[edit]

The article Hardcore tuning has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Google books has exactly one mention of "hardcore tuning", which is a copy of this "article". It is not notable.

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Nomination of Hardcore tuning for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hardcore tuning is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hardcore tuning until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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