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A Note About Advertising and Conflicts of Interest

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Due to the rising profile of Wikipedia and the amount of extra traffic it can bring a site, there is a great temptation to use Wikipedia to advertise or promote sites. This includes both commercial and non-commercial sites. You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it. This is in line with the conflict of interest guidelines.
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Archive Jul06-Jun07


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bad image on Sabotage (album)

Thank you for noticing that the image at Sabotage (album) was a fake. I found a good version of the album cover and added it to the article. --Eastmain 22:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dzi bead article

You removed two links from the external links on the Dzi bead article, just before I realized what they were and was about to do the same. Actually there seems to be a large edit war going on to have (what appear to me, at any rate) spam links in the article. Possibly the article should be protected for a while. FlowerpotmaN (t · c) 05:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment, only full protection would help as the user adding most of the junk is a registered user, the IPs have been removing the junk. Let's see how they react to the changes that we made tonight.. if the warring continues, I'll request full protection. -- Versageek 05:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great Wall of China

Hi. The information I am adding is actually factually accurate. I am currently searching for sources to verify this, but once I have located them I shall post you a link here, and then restore my version of said article. Thanks--Emperor Tony X. Liu 19:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, here's the source: http://www.wereallneighbours.co.uk/idlechat/message.php?id=19306&start= --Emperor Tony X. Liu 19:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

i got your message that some of external links additions are advertising something. See quote below

"but some of your recent contributions seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes."

I am not advertising a sale or anything. I am just informing people. How can one tell if i was promoting something? I am just informing people of a new website they might or might not be interested in. I think my links are eligible because they dont involve anything that is bias or otherwise.

Vanshizzle 02:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What the links are promoting is the website. The page they link to is merely a sign up form and doesn't include any information that adds encyclopedic value. Please read the external links policy. In particular Links normally to be avoided --Versageek 02:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well it is that the website is not finished yet. Just make people aware that it exists is not advertising. And it doesnt force you to sign up anywhere.Vanshizzle 00:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Versageek, I appreciate very much the work you do to keep spam off wikipedia. I am writing to you because I believe you made an error in deleting the external links on the [opinion] page. I compiled a list of three web sites that are focused on users opinions on a variety of subjects and are prominent sites with opinion driven content, though I know opinions are ubiquitous on web pages. In wikipedia's search to find everything fact, I think it imperative to have these sites as the fact remains that they are web sites all about opinions on the web. Further more the first site on the list opnation.com is trying to be a site that wants to take users opinions of every topic imaginable and then have a digg style ranking algorithm that would order the opinions in terms of what the general public agrees upon. This site would replace traditional style public polling, which is easy biased and not a good indicator of true public opinion. I will be adding these links back to the opinion page and I hope my words to you here have persuaded you to understand that they are hardly spam.

Peace —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Micfri (talk • contribs).

Rather than adding them as external links, why not created a section in the article about websites that gather and rank opinions/opinion driven content, and use these as references or examples, your explanation to me of why they should be included would a good start for that section. --Versageek 03:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did put in a link at the index fund page. You over zealously took it away. The page lacks information about index fund clubs I added one http://indexfund.se. I could not just add the text because of copy right issues.

Sincerely, David Winther — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.81.35 (talk • contribs)

Perhaps you could add a note to the talk page that the article should have information about investment clubs and see what others think. The content of the linked site is a sales pitch trying to get the reader to sign up for that particular investment club, links to sites with that sort of content really aren't permitted under our external links guidelines. --Versageek 01:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

itemsoft.com

Hello,

I see that you have been deleting our links... we understand. However, there are other companies listed that appear to be keeping their links ... t-cubed, and bqr. Why are they remaining?

Thanks.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnqtodd (talk • contribs) 14:01, 5 July 2007.

I missed a few of those - they have now been removed, as well as links to polimore.com which also appears to be a software company. --Versageek 14:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The nature of Wikipedia means that you can't make a convincing argument based on what other links in articles do or don't exist; because there's nothing stopping anyone from adding any link to any article. Plenty of links exist that probably shouldn't, conversly many links don't exist that probably should. So just pointing out that a link exists in an article doesn't prove that the link in question should also exist.--Hu12 14:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cortes Island (Hansen Airfield) Airport

Thanks for catching that. I can't believe that I got it right in the box and the rest of it wrong. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't take credit for finding it, a resident of Cortes Island emailed OTRS about it. I just verified the proper spelling, did the move, cleaned up the double redirects and thanked the gentleman for letting us know :) . --Versageek 07:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Well if you can send them my apologies for making the error in the first place. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i think this is the information site for the best hosting so i add up in the external links if it is not appropriate then i will not add it up but tell me what is the defect in this information site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.189.96.14 (talk • contribs).

Please select one or two pages where the links might be most helpful and ask on the discussion pages if others agree that your links should be added. Adding the links to multiple pages will usually result in them being removed as spam. Also, please read our External Links guidelines, and know that Wikipedia is not a directory or collection of links. --Versageek 18:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I saw you removed a link from the Handmade Jewelry page. Not that it matters that much in this particular case and I won't place the link back, although it has been placed there by several different editors and admins in the last year or so. More importantly however: I *would* like to draw your attention to the fact this page is part of the wikipedia jewelry/gemology project and we use a number of sources for different pages, as well as monitor the pages. Whilst it is very much appreciated spam is removed, I would appreciate it if you could leave a message before doing so (unless it's clearly a commercial link) to one of us... after all we're all trying to build the best possible encyclopedia here, and so always helpful to coordinate things. Thanks

Gem-fanat 18:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, looking at that site now - it's clear I wasn't as diligent as I usually am with my cleaning efforts. It's good to know that the Jewelry/Gemology project will help clean up pages. I was in the middle of an edit war between two users over external links on Dzi bead back in June. I'm still not sure if the blogspot link that is there is worthwhile since blogspot isn't considered a reliable source. I have re-added the long-standing link that I removed from Handmade jewelry. --Versageek 18:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
no problem, I appreciate the fast and kind answer. Let me check the blogspot, because unless it is an expert in the field (and there are a few gem-dealers who would qualify as such (but this means they published books in the area, and are decade-long experts with links to gemlabs etc.). It would definitely not qualify as such. If you have more problems.. don't hesistate to "call".

Gem-fanat 18:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm I see what you mean. For lack of a better resource, and it being quite educational (in terms of explanations and counterfeit images etc.. and not really pushing a commercial agenda here (some at the top, but I have seen much worse as wikipedia reference) I would suggest to keep the blogspot in. Although I do remember a rule somewhere about blogs/discussion groups not acceptable. I think such a rule is a bit too harsh considering everyone and all makes use of a blog and there;s a difference between an educational blog (also for lack of better resources) and a teenager high school blog. I WOULD suggest however to take the other link out, since it has already been mentioned in the referencs and would like to stick to one link per page policy.

spam issues

hello.

i have seen that you notifyed me about some spam issues. I don't intend to spam, please tell me where is the exact problem in order to make all the necessary corrections.

thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Googleboy.live (talk • contribs).

I replied on your talk page. Also, please sign your comments with --~~~~ , Thanks --Versageek 02:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking of Cais-soas.com

Hi!

On Meta talk:Spam Blacklist you said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red&action=submit
This discussion moved to here, please continue discussion there. --Versageek 21:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

..I don't understand what you mean with the http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red&action=submit (unless it's not by you? Or just a mis-paste?), or why cais-soas.com is to be blocked (I found some useful archeological references there!) - could you elaborate? Thanks! flammifertalk 07:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See my reply on meta. --Versageek 07:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Albania's page

Thank you for your support and cleaning the vandalism.Cheers Taulant23☻

sorry about...

Hello, sorry about external links added to the page Free software. What I can do, that my link will be add to the page Free software, because my page only about free software.

thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sokrato (talk • contribs).

I really can't think of anywhere on Wikipedia that your link would be appropriate. Wikipedia is not a directory or collection of links.--Versageek 03:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the same one?

Hi. I am a part time wikiPedian and A full time wikiHowian. Are you the same Versageek that's on WikiHow? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blabla96 (talk • contribs).

yep, that's me :) --Versageek 03:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trademark registration...

Australian TM Reg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dude4012 (talk • contribs).

Yes, I'm aware of this. I left your note at the top of the article about the Australian Trademark, as well as your link at the top of the products list. While Wikimedia isn't interested in challenging your Australian trademark, it should be noted that attempts by others to trademark this phrase as a wordmark (without stylized text or a design) in the US, EU and Germany have been rejected as too generic.. --Versageek 02:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trademark..

I dont want to debate trademarks, there is a whole industry which does this.. Suffice to say that as long as we have a registered trademark, I expect it to be acknowledged and not used as a generic term.

Australia has by-lateral and multi-lateral agreements/treaties in place which provide for mutual recongnition of trademakes within the countries you mention.

Australia, is not like the USA, and has a strong IP process; there has been very little success with any appeals against an Australian trademark issued by IP Australia..

In particular we have recently forced Google to stop infinging our trademark, and will defend it against any current and future infingment..

Bottom line, please ensure that at a minimium the acknolwedgement, and reference with the registered trademark symbol are included within this entry..

Otherwise we request that this entry be removed from Wilkipedia as it voliates our registered trademark in both form and intent.

Thanks..

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