Wikipedia talk:Dead-end pages

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Archived

I have archived all the posts to Archive 3, as this page was getting long. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 06:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DeadBot Control

I am moving DeadBot to a dedicated server, and with it, I am adding a new method of control to it. This will allow anyone to get the bot to do various tasks, including the DEP list tasks. It is based on an IRC bot. Anyone interested should read User:DeadBot/irc. Ask me on that pages talk page, with your irc nick (you must be registered), and I will add you to the Approved group so you can run the dep part of the bot. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 06:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pages Still On List

I noticed many pages are still on the dead-end pages, only now they're marked as something like "unreferenced", or whatever else is still wrong with it. Are these remaining issues not the object of another project? The main page mentions to "Please remove from the list any pages which are no longer dead-end." Wikipedia:Dead-end_pages, but if this many people aren't, I'm thinking maybe there's a good reason for it -- so I won't remove anything else from the list unless I'm certain it's still the right thing to do. Spazure 04:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A cleanup template on a page doesn't really count as a link... Also, octopuses 05:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think it did. I'm talking about stuff that has had wikilinks added into the text, but still needs to cite some sources, add a photo, or perhaps other wikification. See Andy_Lee_(footballer/_manager) for an example. Spazure 07:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to remove, as long as it is tagged with the appropriate cleanup tags. This is the project exclusively for dead end pages. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 09:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Holdovers

I've cleared out most of Whitejay's holdovers. If anyone wants to take a stab at what's left, I'd appreciate the help. --Fabrictramp 18:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC) (formerly Kathy A.)[reply]

Two pages complete

This is fantastic! There must have been a big boom to the number of people working here lately (maybe because of a great ad someone made...), and both G-K and D-F are empty. I just finished off the D-F, and i'm going to be doing some work on U-Z. I'm going to try and get A-C done by the end of the day. What's next? U-Z has just over 100 entries, L-O is about 450, and P-T is about 800-900. What's the next page to be worked on? Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A-C done. Now there is only 3 pages to go, we have L-O, P-T, and U-Z. U-Z is the smallest, followed by L-O, and P-T is the largest. I'm going to do some work on U-Z tonight. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 02:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did quite a bit of work on A-K with AWB. Once I figured out all the great things it can do by right-clicking, the speed really went up. :) --Fabrictramp 13:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, that explains it. I'm thinking of getting AWB soon, so then it should really speed up. (By any chance, could you tell me what you were right-clicking, and where that was? I've never seen a function for DEP) Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 22:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing really DEP specific, but lots of generally useful tools. Right-clicking in the edit window brings up a menu with lots of options (fix whitespace, add DEFAULTSORT & wikify tags, etc.) It also brings up a "paste special" drop down, where you can have a list of 10 or so things to paste in. I throw in my most used tags (primarysources, uncat, notability, refimprove, context etc.), so with about a half dozen mouse clicks I have an article tagged to the gills. Throw in a few links, make the subject bold, and use the find feature to get rid of the more common formatting issues.

The other tool I use a lot for DEP is Twinkle. Makes the prods and AfDs fast and easy. Between the two, I can make quite a bit of progress on pages in short order.--Fabrictramp 00:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, that seems like a great idea. I already use Twinkle, which does make AfD's and especially speedies quite easy. I also have a tagger script that allows me to click a button, and type in a tag to add to the top or bottom. Makes addings tags so much easier. AWB is of course ideal, but I don't have the necessary 500 mainspace edits. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is possible to make proposing for deletion too easy.-- it is the last resort for articles that cannot be merged or improved.DGG (talk) 03:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Header template

I have changed the complicated header code on each page to a template:

It is located at Wikipedia:Dead-end pages/Header.

I created a template so merging/splitting pages (the L-O and P-T are huge) in the future should be easy. Any comments/etc are welcome. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 22:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Schedule

DeadBot is running on a temporary host, and will run every 12 hours. It will run at 6 AM and 6 PM NZST (GMT+12). Is this fine, or does anyone have any complaints/concerns/suggestions. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 05:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it therefore still necessary to remove items manually from the list?DGG (talk) 03:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not redlinks, redirects, or pages moved to wiktionary. Anything else is still necessary. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After getting edit conflicts with deadbot twice in a day, I wonder if once a day is enough... --Alvestrand 20:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, i'll change it over tonight and see what happens. It shouldnt make much of a difference. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for verification

Please see: Wikipedia:Requests for verification

A proposal designed as a process similar to {{prod}} to delete articles without sources if no sources are provided in 30 days.

It reads:

This page has been listed in Category:Requests for verification.
It has been suggested that this article might not meet Wikipedia's core content policies Verifiability and/or No original research. If references are not cited within a month, the disputed information will be removed.

If you can address this concern by sourcing please edit this page and do so. You may remove this message if you reference the article.

The article may be deleted if this message remains in place for 30 days. (This message was added: 10 September 2024.)

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, improve the article so that it is acceptable according to Verifiability and/or No original research.

Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. (help, get involved!)

Some editors see this as necessary to improve Wikipedia as a whole and assert that this idea is supported by policy, and others see this as a negative thing for the project with the potential of loss of articles that could be easily sourced.

I would encourage your comments in that page's talk or Mailing list thread on this proposal WikiEN-l: Proposed "prod" for articles with no sources

Signed Jeepday (talk) 14:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As Jeepday's friendly opponent on this, I'd encourage discussion there too. No point in opening the debate at another place as well. DGG (talk) 02:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You realise this would affect a huge proportion of stubs? Many of them have no sources. Although I do believe this should be implemented, it should be made to only affect non-stubs. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 23:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New database dump available.

There's a new database dump out, from about a week ago. I've tried for a couple of days to extract it, but I just don't have the room on my computer. Anyone want to take a stab at regenerating the list?--Fabrictramp 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

~~Third day was the charm, apparently. I've got it extracted now, and will run AWB on it tonight.~~ --Fabrictramp 16:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Or not. Multiple extraction efforts have given me a bad end of file each time -- AWB gives up and complains after 4 - 60 articles found.--Fabrictramp 18:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you using bzip2? Also, octopuses 03:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and it finished with an I/O error. Tried again in Safe Mode, just to make sure nothing running in the background was causing trouble, and I got the same error. Several other programs failed also. At this spot I'm chalking it up to running on a 5 year old machine that probably doesn't have enough oomph to get it done.--Fabrictramp 14:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since no one has stepped up and regenerated the list, I've been going through some of the new pages and added maint tags, including {{deadend}}. Anyone who wants to keep working on the project can find them in Category:Dead-end pages --Fabrictramp 15:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are there really nobody who has disk for a dump and AWB installed who can do this? I would, but I don't run IE on my fast systems... --Alvestrand 11:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't get the latest version of AWB to run.... it's too bad there's not an easier way to do this. Also, octopuses 12:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of personal names

Some may not be aware of this, but lists of names in various languages which also provide their meanings are eligible to be transwikied to Wiktionary. This should be accomplished before they are deleted from Wikipedia. Askari Mark (Talk) 21:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]