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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Kiwiclipart (talk | contribs) at 00:02, 8 September 2007 (→‎no hes not: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Ooooh... I'll read and digest your comments tomorrow :> MarašmusïneTalk 23:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC) (from archive 3) I guess they gave you indigestion? ;) (hope I didn't just miss an answer) Felisse 22:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I didn't know what to say! My problem with rankings on places like topmudsites is that they are automatically generated with no editorial oversight. It's a ranking of how much the games themselves push the players to click that vote link, and how often, and I've seen games reward players with things like extra action points for doing so. Ultimately what I'm looking for as a reference for popularity in any article is an independent, reliable reviewer saying "game X is a popular game" (regardless of what his sources are). Regarding your ideas about SnakRates, I'm not sure, I'd have to see how it applies on individual articles. I'm not sure I'd mention anything about who's advertising what, where, unless the advert itself is noteworthy. Marasmusine 07:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marasmusine, I would like some clarification on your concerns about the DUEL2 article. You mention third party verification. I am confused because the only place that I would understand this to be needed is in justifying why the article should be part of WikiPedia. To this end, I have posted reference information relating to two competitive products listing the game as a significant part of the industry as well as the only third party source still in operation and focusing on PBM, Greg Lindahl's PBM list. To further support the article I am attempting to get copies of articles published in the two 'trade' magazines for the PBM world which were prominent in the 80s and 90s which is when this industry was in its hey-day. However, only one is still in business today, so getting copies may be problematic. Can you clarify your expectations further for me? --DaculaDom 13:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, hi DaculaDom, I just posted something on that articles talk page. Basically, if you can get hold of the coverage from Dragon Magazine and Flagship, that should be enough to assert Duel2's notability and the material can be used to verify the information in the article. See our WP:Verifiability policy for more information. Thanks, Marasmusine 13:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

email address

Do you have an email address, Marasmusine? If possible, and if the address is not too private, would you be able to email me, so that I can reply to you regarding something perhaps a bit too sensitive to put directly onto Wikipedia, and thus in Google's Cache/countless WP mirrors? --Dreaded Walrus t c 01:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recieved, thanks. It's a shame, I always used to respect him. Marasmusine 13:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah... Same here. Still, there's still Biffo, eh? :P
Still, hopefully that will be the end of that. --Dreaded Walrus t c 14:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Biffovision :> Marasmusine 14:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Facts: My mum and brother didn't get it, but my American girlfriend thought it was the funniest thing she's ever seen. I don't know if that says anything profound. --Dreaded Walrus t c 14:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you placed a tag on the Retribution Engine article that requires sources or references. But I don't understand what is required? It doesn't make any controversial statements or claims that I know of and all the information comes from the most reliable source of information, the person who wrote the engine and has been involved in all its history, i.e. me. So I was wondering what I can do to satisfy this requirement?

All material we place on Wikipedia should preferably come from third party sources, such as magazine reviews or articles, and in fact such coverage is usually required to assert notability. WP:Verifiability and WP:Reliable sources will explain more (note that Verifiability is a Wikipedia policy), and WP:Notability is a guideline that should help. Thanks, Marasmusine 19:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've hopefully improved the lead section of Retribution Engine. Is it ok now? I find this very difficult to gauge. If I am supposed to make statements of why the engine is notable I might make statements that are more controversial and so require sources :S It is tricky to do articles such as this I think because we are talking about internet focused projects and information and it is difficult to cite sources for such. I know my engine is listed on a large number of sites, all I have to do is do a Google search to see that, but how do I quantify/state that? I know my engine was released on cover disks for magazines but I have no record any more of what they were.

sorry I didn't see your last reply before I made my last post. It seems to me that if the Wikipedia policy is to require coverage from third party sources then there is a basic incompatibility here between the subject matter and Wikipedia. The internet gamings scene tends to be entirely independant of the mainstream publishing industry, in fact it exists to allow freedom from the bias and prejudice that exists in the mainstream publishing industry. Most magazines are only concerned with commerical game titles that offer the latest 'eye candy'. It is INCREDIBLY difficult for a free game project to even get a mention in a magazine. This doesn't make it un-noteworthy, it can have thousands of downloads and be very popular and completely come under the radar of mainstream publishing. But this stuff is really hard to quantity. Anyway, I saw that someone had added a stub to Wikipedia mentioning my game and after many months it had not been expanded. So I decided to spend what has turned out to be many hours of my valuable time constructing a useful article on my engine, based on first hand knowledge rather than the potentially prejudiced opinions of a third party source. Now I'm being told I've wasted my time because to give an authoritative article on a subject I know intimately is not Wikipedia policy! I was proud to finish my article and now I feel thoroughly deflated :(

Sorry you feel upset, please don't take it personally. You could always revert it, I suppose. There is a disclaimer on every edit page: If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.
I also sympathise with your comments about subject incompatability with regards internet gaming scene. Wikipedia only reports what has already been reported. Magazines like Edge are a possible source. However, I urge you not to write about projects you yourself are involved in; it will be seen as a conflict of interest. If the subject is notable, someone else will eventually write about it. Marasmusine 21:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I should have tagged this one as a G3 rather than G1, but it was an obvious juvenile hoax either way (giving hints on how to look for your bladder after it's wandered off?). I don't think a redirect is appropriate as it's neither a medical or slang term for an overactive bladder (it gets a single Google hit, from a silly thread on somethingawful.com), so I'd suggest that as a redirect it's still a speedy - this time an R3. Best, Iain99 08:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oki doki. Marasmusine 08:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Iain99 08:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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????? What happened to the content that was previously here? I wrote most of it and it's vanished. There's nothing in the history or logs to tell me what's happened. The only reason I know something's happened was I got an orphaned image notice on the cover art used on the article.

Was there an AFD I missed or something? Exxolon 01:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied on your talk page. Marasmusine 06:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Announced deletion of Tankmania article

I noticed that there's a lot of rubbish on the Tankmania article and a lot of stupid spam. For some reason Tankmania seems to attract that sort – not only on Wikipedia, but elsewhere too.

Nevertheless, I think it would still be good to keep the article rather than deleting it. As a method of preventing vandalism on that page could you consider to ban non-registered users from editing that article? Invenio 08:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC) tc[reply]

I'll be convinced by a keep argument if it can assert its notability through referencing independent coverage, per out notability guidelines. Marasmusine 08:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maple Story freeware

Hi.

If Maple Story was removed from the freeware list, why is Audition there? I beleive they both use the Nexxon Cash system, although it isn't required.

Just wondering!

(oops forgot to sign!)aeryka 18:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Gradius (video game)

Someone moved Gradius (video game) to Gradius, but didn't move Talk:Gradius (video game). Would you mind? ~ JohnnyMrNinja 22:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, done! Marasmusine 06:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, that was quite prompt. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 21:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again -- glad to know you remember me. I appreciate the fine point you made on The Grimm Generation. I strongly suspect that this neologism exists nowhere except in that book (no related Google hits I could find), which is pretty much why I tagged it, but I'm 100% behind the way you handled it, because it was right -- if it should stay, that's the way to find out. I also note you were adding advice to a newbie that I was trying to help out (I offered him WP:BIO and WP:Notability, and you added WP:Autobiography, which I should have thought of). His autobiography didn't stay up for long, but at least now he'll know why. Thanks again for your help. Cheers! Accounting4Taste 22:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

bomchikawowo

can u be my wikifreind --Kiwiclipart 08:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taupo suberbs

hi i just relised ure the one hiw moved my taupo suberbs page

smart move

help hay could u give some tips about the writing of this article

do u come from new zealand(graetist country on earth rely to me. hay and how come u went on my talk page --Kiwiclipart 08:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bomchikawowo indeed, Kiwi. I'm not from New Zealand but I happened to see the articles you were starting and wanted to help tidy them up. Sure, I'll be your wikifriend, you can ask me a question any time. Best advise I can give you at the moment is 1)Always make a note where you get your information from (is it from a book, for example?) and 2)watch your spelling :> Take care, Marasmusine 16:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Important notice

The actions that you have taken on List of Tetris variants are enough cause to press charges and that is exactly what our lawyer is doing right now. Your actions violate approximately 6 international laws, and carry fines of as much as $250,000. Our lawyer will contact you shortly, to announce the date/time of the scheduled court meeting. You will be summoned to this meeting, and if you do not show up, you will be arrested and will waive your right to a jury trial. This is a very serious issue, and I advise you that any statement you make can and will be used against you in a court of law. 71.53.35.133 21:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hah, awesome, I can't wait. You should read this policy: Wikipedia:No legal threats. Marasmusine 21:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

System Shock 3 AfD

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from System Shock 3, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. I have nominated the article for deletion instead; the debate may be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/System Shock 3, which overrides the need for a {{prod}} tag. I have explained my reasons for doing this in my nomination. Thanks! — TKD::Talk 12:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oki doki. Marasmusine 12:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Characters in Bully.

Can you check this article to see if it needs to be protected due to the amount of edits thats happened this month so far Dan the man1983 22:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no hes not

that guy is nothing compared to jn36 eithen lock