Talk:Ron Goldman
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ISU?
Goldman attended ISU? To my knowledge, he went to University of Illinois and Peirce College instead, leaving both after one semester (as per the Goldmans' book). ~ SE
COming here not knowing the background of the case I feel like this - "Goldman didn't own a car when he was killed, but could often be seen riding around the Brentwood area in Nicole Brown-Simpson's Ferrari." could use explanation. Is it an unsubstantiated rumor? Is it widely accepted that he already knew Nicole and there was perhaps something going on? B/c right now it's vaguely implied w/o even establishing what the widely believed truth is. Was he a stranger and the eyeglass thing is the only reason he was there? I honestly know nothing about the case which is why i can reliably say this is really confusing. 216.207.246.230 18:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- Agree with the above - can someone shed some light on this? - Dave (11 November 2006)
- I remember Chris Rock referring to this in his routine about the case (some ten years ago). But all that shows is that if it's a rumor, it's a rumor that's been going around for a while. I'd say if nobody can dig up a cite, this line should come out of the article. -- Narsil 07:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The entire section "The Murder" consists of a conspiracy theory. It should probably be removed, or redacted to a short sentence. Uucp 21:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
conspiracy theory
Since it is not technically a conspiracy theory, but background that suggests a conspiracy theory, I do not think this background should be deleted, but perhaps placed in a clearer context. Ronald Goldman was an employee at Mezzaluna, so I do not see why this background should be edited.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Crimedog (talk • contribs)
Why is this in the the category: usolved murders?
We all know who murdered jim. Just because "the authorities" in your country consider it unsolved doesn't mean wikipedia does, by this logic the Tiananmen Square Massacre article should also be deleted.--Greasysteve13 05:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
It's unwise to use "we" , you should not presume to know other people's opinions. It also should be noted that the "authorities" did not find OJ innocent , rather a jury of 12 of his peers did.68.71.35.93 21:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- No, one jury of his peers found him "not guilty". They didn't find him innocent. Another jury of his peers found him liable for two deaths. - Nunh-huh 21:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Innocent until proven guilty. Since he was proven "Not Guilty" and cannot be tried for the case again, no matter how guilty he is, it's not wrong to say he was found innocent. That doesn't mean he isn't guilty. Of course he is. Just not in a court of law.
"Evidence strongly indicated"
The article states, "Evidence strongly indicated Goldman was killed by O. J. Simpson" even though he was found "not guilty."
Note on location
Brentwood, CA is a small town in Northern California. Brentwood is a neighborhood of the city of Los Angeles, thus changed to Brentwood, Los Angeles, CA.
Buffalo Grove
It is highly unlikely that he was born in Buffalo Grove, as all available health care facilities in 1968 were in adjacent Arlington Heights. Not impossible, but very, very doubtful. KriZe 08:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Page as a whole
Frankly, this page is terrible- I noted where this data needs verifying/ elaborating with the {{fact}} tag. Anyone with the relevant info should either edit the right info in, or delete the information tagged Jonomacdrones 01:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
The article lists two different cemetaries that he is burried in, "Goldman is buried at the Agoura cemetery."
Come on...everybody knows O. J. did it. Why talk around it? "Ronald Goldman is buried in Valley Oaks Cemetery in Westlake Village, California"
- that may be so however, a court of law found OJ not guilty therefore we can not say he murdered Ron. OJ would have grounds to sue wikipedia for slandering him, if we included that sort of information. Fighting for Justice 18:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
O.J. was found liable for wrongful death in a civil trial. So at the very least it can be written "O.J. was responsible for Ron Goldman's death."