Talk:The Dick Van Dyke Show

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Public domain

I've added to the article that several episodes of the show are in the public domain. I had to use the weasel term "for reasons unknown". Does anyone know why four episodes of the series (but, it appears, no others) became public domain? 23skidoo 08:09, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to David for making the public domain situation a little clearer. I'm still curious as to why a few 2nd season episodes lost their copyright... 23skidoo 16:33, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. I couldn't find anything online about the reason, even at gossip-laden fan sites. Presumably somebody just forgot to submit the paperwork. - DavidWBrooks 20:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. There's actually a good article to be written about famous movies and TV shows that have fallen into public domain because of such oversights. Aside from Dick Van Dyke, a few episodes of Bonanza, Beverly Hillbillies, Andy Griffth and Dragnet have also fallen off the copyright bandwagon, and then there were major movies that should still be in copyright but aren't such as Royal Wedding, Till the Clouds Roll By and Charade... 23skidoo 22:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Petrie Page

I would like to submit my Dick van Dyke Show web site to the editors:

http://community-2.webtv.net/BRAD47426/ThePetriePage/

129.79.205.195 16:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

I've gone and bulleted the already named characters, and added a few more. I notice that someone has cleaned up what I did a little, so thanks, I did it in a rush. I wasn't sure on all of the actors names so I hope someone can verify them.

Mbatman72 22:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

R.O.S.E.B.U.D.?

Could someone post an explanation (in the article, preferably) for Ritchie's middle name, which is listed as "R.O.S.E.B.U.D." in the current version? This isn't vandalism, is it? --ScottAlanHill 21:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not vandalism—there's an episode about it, and it stands for Robert Oscar Sam Edward Benjamin Ulysses David. But I question whether that one episode is sufficiently notable for R.O.S.E.B.U.D. to be listed prominently in the main cast list. AJD 21:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd respectfully disagree (though not strongly); if it is his middle name, then I think it should be included, and because it is unusual, it should be explained. The middle names of TV characters are often revealed in only one or two episodes, but still included in Wikipedia articles; see Fonzie and James T. Kirk for two probable examples. As another example, I haven't watched a lot of the Dick Van Dyke show, but I notice that Buddy Sorrell's first name is "Maurice"; I'd bet that this was only revealed in one or two episodes, and certainly only for comedic effect. (I could be wrong, though.) --ScottAlanHill 04:02, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True, but "ROSEBUD" is so bizarre and takes up so much space (to show and explain) that it naturally attracts way more attention than it deserves, and distracts people from reading the cast list. There's no way to include it at all without giving it undue weight. I agree with you that it's not a big deal either way, but I think it's silly to include. AJD 14:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also prefer that it not be right there in the cast list, but if it is, must it be in all-caps with the periods? Wouldn't the name really just be "Rosebud"? Joyous! | Talk 15:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Helper/Halper

Isn't Jerry and Millie's last name Halper? I see it both ways in various forums. Sorry--too busy to research myself.

Alan Brady

I distinctly remember Carl Reiner saying years afterward that he originally wanted to play the part of Rob Petrie himself, but the higher-ups at CBS decided that Reiner was "too Jewish" for the part. The idea behind Alan Brady never showing his face was in fact an inside joke by Reiner, poking fun at his bosses. And of course the idea was copied 30 years later by Home Improvement.