Talk:List of films based on Marvel Comics publications

Inclusion in the List

This is only for Marvel Universe-related properties, right?

The following are not based on Marvel Universe properties, but were done by publishers that were later acquired by Marvel (such as Malibu Comics). I feel this makes them ineligible for this article.

• Men in Black (1997) (by Aircel Comics, which was acquired by Malibu Comics, which was later acquired by Marvel Comics)
• Men in Black II (2002) (same as above)
• NightMan (1997, TV movie) (by Malibu Comics, which was later acquired by Marvel Comics)
• NightMan (1997, TV series) (by Malibu Comics, which was later acquired by Marvel Comics)

Also, Darkman and sequels are not Marvel properties, though Marvel did publish a licensed 3-part movie adaptation and 6-part limited series.

KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park is not a Marvel Comics-based movie, despite the fact that KISS did appear in the Howard the Duck series. DS 14:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Malibu was acquired by Marvel prior to initial development of the television series; shouldn't that qualify it as a Marvel property for the purposes of this article? --Mhking 15:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Categorising films

This film is listed as "The Fantastic Four (1994, unreleased)" in the 1944-1988 category at the beginning of the entry. This film should be listed in the Unreleased category instead.

I've added released/unreleased to the pre-1998 category and moved the unreleased F4 movie into the pre-1998 unreleased category. By the way, what is the reason for spliting the list at 1998? Does it have something to do with the launch of Marvel Entertainment? Journeyman 01:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Daredevil 2

Avi Arad's said in interviews that there will NOT be a DD2, that marvel learned from it's mistakes. I'll try to find some cites, but any idea that there will be a DD2 is fan hopes, not Avi's words.ThuranX 05:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

That quote you mentioned was in reference to "Elektra 2," not Daredevil 2. --Bishop2 15:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Old/New Era

Now that a TV section has been created, there is no point in having old/new era. Therefore, do not add those headings. --Jamdav86 09:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

And yet there is a real difference in the quality of movies prior to the release of Blade (cf. Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.). Journeyman 01:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a citation? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 14:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Quality is irrelevant. List length is the only reason it should be split up, and all that you split off are five articles, which seems silly to me. --Jamdav86 16:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I didn't split the list. I have no citations but have a feeling it's probably linked to Marvel's recovery from financial difficulties in the 90's; and can be seen in Marvel's current aggresive development of live action movies from it's character roster. Journeyman 01:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Fan films

I have removed the beginnings of a list of fan films:

== List of Marvel Fan Films == 
*Spider-man: The Peril of Doc Ock (Lego, 2004) 

I do not believe it fits the scope of this page - definitely listcruft turf... Ah having now searched for it and found the production details here. I would say the cited production is not a fan film but promotional video. Cool certainly, but I'm still not sure it fits the scope of this page. Perhaps the film could be cited in the Spiderman 2 article. Journeyman 00:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Unreleased film under Released heading?

Doesn't it seem a little contradictory to list Fantastic Four (1994, unreleased) under the Released heading? I'm not saying that the film shouldn't be listed, I'm saying maybe we should rename the heading, although I'm not sure to what? Completed was about the only thing I could think of. Joltman 23:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Punisher (1989)

Should the 1989 Punisher film be added to the list of marvel feature films? - RVDDP2501 02:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yes. The list is incomplete. 惑乱 分からん 21:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Revamped list

I revamped the list. First of all, every movie under Released movies belongs there. If there is some reason you don't think they do, discuss it here. But there were Marvel films before Blade, I don't understand why they keep getting deleted. As for upcoming films, if the film already has an article, leave it as a link, but if it doesn't have an article, it needs a source. -Joltman 20:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Crossover Films

Has anyone heard of any Marvel properties in possible crossover films? I.E. Spiderman and Hulk or Wolverine and Punisher? There were quite a few match ups in the comics that I can rememeber(too many to remember), but with this whole Civil War series being so popular, I thought we'd be seeing cameos or short roles for different properties in the films so they can start bringing forth the notion that these individual heroes are not the only ones on the planet. Perhaps Spiderman making mention of the Fantastic Four or Hulk, since there characters created news worthy stories within their own individual movies. Just a thought. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.68.241.2 (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

Deadpool

The Marvel Comics antihero Deadpool was licensed to New Line Cinema years ago.

Dr. Strange on template

Why is Dr. Strange in the template below? it was a movie for TV, shouldn't we then add Nick Fury's Movie with David Hasselhof and that Generation X movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.23.91.9 (talk) 15:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Man Thing and Nick Fury

Someone removed them as they were Tv-Movies, but Man Thing was made for a theatrical release, and even an unreleased movie made it on to the list! Surely we can include them or man-thing at least, even if with a note saying they were TV only movies? Or are they definatley to stay on the programmes list (which in all essence they are not, unlike the hulk films for example which were longer versions of the series) Cactusrob 14:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The way it is setup, List of television programs based on Marvel Comics includes any movie that debuted on TV. There should not be any duplication of movies, so if it belongs on that list, it can't be on this list. If you think we should sort them differently, feel free to let us know how. -Joltman 17:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Well possibly move the stand alone movies (i.e Man-Thing) to this list, and leave the "movies" (extended tv episodes) on the other. So that would mean bring Man-Thing, Generation X, Power Pack and Nick Fury over to this list possibly. Cactusrob 22:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

To be honest with you, I was thinking along the same lines as you. The only thing stopping me was how to describe the difference. I guess the qualification would be if they were directly related to a TV series. Of course, then there's the issue of the 'pilot' movies that weren't picked up as a series. I would be fine with bringing over Dr. Strange, Captain America, Captain America II: Death Too Soon, Power Pack, Generation X, Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Man-Thing (2005) and then just leaving the Spider-Man and Hulk movies over there. Sound good? -Joltman 23:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds great Cactusrob 15:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Strange, Captain America, Power Pack, Generation X, Nick Fury and Spider-Man and the Hulk were all created FOR television. That's probably the most obvious difference. Man-Thing was created as a direct-to-DVD release, just like the animated films; if we're going to include the animated films in this template, there's no question that Man-Thing should be as well. --Bishop2 15:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Production companies

Me and another user have conflicting opinions about whether the production companies should be listed here. My thought is that they should not be, because that information is not necessary as the purpose of this list is just to show you what films have been/will be made based on Marvel Comics. The company that makes the film is irrelevant. Also, you can find out which company produced the film on its' own article. Anyone else can feel free to express their opinion -Joltman 11:09, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad you made this, friend. I was wondering what your thoughts were exactly. Personally, I feel that the distributors are an interesting additional bit of info, which is something I thought was good to have, as the page previously did. Also, when I first saw the distributors (when they were previously added) I found it interesting to see how Marvel has tried to become more involved for future cross-promotional movies (i.e. The Avengers). It's just a tiny extra bit of interesting info in my opinion, is all. -Harish101 00:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Someone just reverted my edit to list Lions Gate under Man-Thing because they "only distributed" the movie. While that's true, the same is also true of The Punisher; it was produced by Artisan and distributed by Lions Gate later. In both cases, this was because Artisan was already underway with filming on these projects when they were bought out by Lions Gate. So the question becomes - should Lions Gate be mentioned on EITHER of these projects? Or Artisan, for that matter, since they no longer existed by the time the films came out? I'm in favor of listing both companies for both films. But it cetainly makes no sense to only have ONE company for one film and BOTH for the other... --Bishop2 13:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

According to IMDB, both Artisan and Lions Gate were producers on Punisher but only Artisan was a producer on Man-Thing. Do you have a source that claims otherwise? -Joltman 16:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

You mean just for Lions Gate's connection to Man-Thing? Well, the film has their logo on the front of it before the opening titles, with no sign of Artisan's logo. As I said, this is probably just because it came out after the buyout, but it still connects them to the film. The Amazon page for Man-Thing also has the "Studio" listed solely as "Lions Gate," if you want a hard web citation. And since our header simply says "Studio," that leaves a lot of room for interpretation on what kind of studio we're talking about here. I think filming was still going on during the buyout, but I'm not sure - if the filming was finished by the time Lions Gate bought Artisan, does that mean we view it solely as an Artisan film? If that's the case, I still think we should consider renaming the heading if nothing else. Changing "studio" to "production company" or something more specific that labels them as more than a distributor. --Bishop2 18:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

the question of a Marvel Movie Universe

Is there anything in the Marvel movies that contradicts the interpretation that they exist in the same universe? Have any of the various director's commentaries or production documentaries mentioned a "marvel universe" when referring to the movies? Is there any evidence either way? 218.215.146.184 02:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

The fact that people are amazed by the powers and abilities evidence by Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four obviously implies that such a thing is not normal in those universes. I.e., mutants most likely do not exist in the worlds of those films, so they're in the same continuity as the X-Men films. Or at least not the same time frame - remember, X-Men takes place in the "not too distant future," after all. Aside from that fact, I don't think there's any evidence for or against this. No one ever talks about the possibility in any commentaries on the DVDs or in the documentaries. Although I suppose it's interesting that J. Jonah Jameson mentions the existence of Dr. Strange in Spider-Man 2. --Bishop2 16:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not very familiar with the comics but don't they have similar problems? People hating mutants for their powers but liking Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four. Mutants tend to hide from the public to avoid persecution. It's not everyday that someone uses their special powers to save people's lives in a spectacular way. I think that's what really amazes people. I used to watch the various Marvel animated series in the 90s and there wasn't a single mention of mutants in Spider-Man until one episode where he teamed up with the X-Men and one character wondered whether Spider-Man was also a mutant. The "not too distant future" is unlikely to be more than 10 years considering the age of Magneto. 218.215.138.243 00:20, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Shang-Chi

I noticed Shang-Chi wasnt mentioned in the list of planned movies is there a reason for this that im not aware of?

Red Sonja

I'm not sure why Red Sonja is listed here. While there was a Red Sonja Marvel comic, the character is owned by the Robert E. Howard estate as part of the Conan property. I've taken the liberty of removing it. Ttenchantr 00:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad you pointed this out, I was wondering what ties Red Sonja actually had to Marvel. => Harish101 09:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

But if you go to the Red Sonja article, you'll see that it says Red Sonja is based on the character Red Sonya created by Howard. I admit it's kind of a grey area, but I figure if the character has a different spelling and is 'based on' the original, that means it is a Marvel character. -Joltman 12:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fantastic Four 3

So someone added an uncited thing about this film and I've not heard nothing about the development of it (as far as I know, they intend to concentrate on the Silver Surfer films now), even though Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer states on its page that the actors are signed up for three films. Just wondering if it's OK for us common folk to happily delete, or does it need to be discussed. Asking for future reference really. => Harish101 00:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thor release date

I just picked up the new issue of Wizard and it says the movie to be released in 2009, so I'm changing it.