Talk:Dethklok

"but they have released 16 albums before the series began, as mentioned in Dethwater"

Unless I'm much mistaken, the mention of 16 albums was the number of potential albums that ended up deleted by the frontman? I'm not going to jump in and make the edit until this is seconded by someone else

yah, thats what that line refered too. it is unclear how many albums were released. ...Patrick (talk, contributions) 07:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted the Sentence under Toki about his only offensive word being Dildos, as that is actually Skwizgar.

Kill this page?

To me, this page seems unnecessary. It covers the members of the band (which is already taken care of here), and the names of songs they performed (which is already on the main one. Furthermore, it links to the Metalocalypse page, but not the Characters page, and neither page links here. Why does this page even exist? --Sakaki22 21:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, they'll have an album soon. I think it's fair to treat them like a band, and they band deserves a seperate page.Karpsmöm 03:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

That may be true, but if we are to keep this page as the band page, should the Characters page have an entire section that is almost literally this exact page? --Sakaki22 06:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

This is a really weird conundrum we've gotten ourselves into. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.170.106.249 (talk) 17:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

I changed the Characters in Metalocalypse page to have a direction to the Dethklok pageKarpsmöm 04:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

In addition, I've deleted the songs section off of the Metalocalypse page (As it is big and ugly and redundant) so at least this page is becoming more unique. Although, the songs section here is still horribly big and ugly, as you don't see any other band with a section filled with songs, many of which don't even exist in the context of the show. So, defend the songs section, or I'm going to delete it. StuIsCool 05:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

about the band members and characters page, although they are almost the same page they should be separate because they are members of a band, but also starring their own show —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.37.83.224 (talk) 07:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC).

I think this page should atleast touch on many "true" or "elitist" metal heads shunning Dethklok in all shapes and forms. Thoughts? CHSoarer 10:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Changed "fictional" to "virtual"

I changed the first line to better reflect Dethklok's status as a virtual band (with all musical roles played by Brendan Small) as opposed to merely "fictional". Gorillaz is much the same concept and amazingly no-one gives their fans a ration of crap about "real" bands vs. "fake" bands. Bullzeye^{Complaint Dept./Contribs)} 06:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I also removed the Bill Kreutzman ref from the Murderface section. People keep coming in here and adding "...is based on" or "...closely resembles" bits that can't stay. The show's made ZERO references to who the characters are supposed to represent, if anybody, and I doubt they ever will. Thus, no soap. Bullzeye^{Complaint Dept./Contribs)} 06:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, Gorillaz is actually a musical entity first and foremost, whilst Dethklok is a cartoon similar deal to Josie and the Pussycats. So although virtual band may be the more suitable label, your comparasion doesn't really hold up. I think it's kind of ridiculous that there are two seperate pages on this anyway, The Monkees are undoubtably more significant than Metalocalypse; they had a TV show in addition to live performances, records, etc. - and eventually solo careers, spanning a much longer time period, yet all the information is in one concise article. Whilst there's probably more written about Dethklok on Wikipedia than the sum of all the dialogue from the entire series, most of [14 year old] fan-speculation, irrelevant information derived from a single throwaway line from the show, and just total garbage. --81.178.233.111 21:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I feel you're wrong; Metalocalypse is, first and foremost, about the music. The cartoon aspect is merely an image, a delivery form if you will. If you'd do your homework, you'd see that the genesis of Dethklok was remarkably similar to the genesis for Gorillaz. Gorillaz is the union of a musician and a comic book writer. Dethklok is the union of a metal musician/cartoonist and a metal musician/comedy writer. In both cases, it's just a different way of presenting the music. The Monkees and Josie and the Pussycats were both a pop-TV concept, thought up by network executives, with the primary purpose of mass-market appeal and advertising dollars. Musical content was inserted when necessary, though it only served to propogate the primary purpose. While I'm not doubting the capitalist tendencies of either Dethklok or Gorillaz, I think their intentions separate them from the others. So do please do try and recognize the difference. 69.84.115.58 03:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Where are you getting this idea from? Brendon Small has never said "Dethklok is about the music first" every source regarding the show that I've ever seen has purely expressed it to be a cartoon that is about metal and has metal songs, not a metal musician who created a cartoon as a vessel for his music. Dethklok does have more in common to Josie and the Pussycats, not Gorillaz. Regardless of the intentions in creating the show/band, it's a matter of what it is. Dethklok is a band from a cartoon before being a band that had a cartoon created for it. Karpsmöm 05:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

• I vote to keep "virtual" as the description. "Fictional band" implies that the music doesn't really exist. KyuzoGator 16:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Nathan loves to be motivated.

How come it's not in there?

Because it's unnecessary to list every possible attribute of each character based on one line of non-plot critical dialogue. --81.178.233.111 21:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Cite it or snuff it. If the guy can find a legitimate episode citation we should discuss it more; maybe we can work something out. Bullzeye^{Complaint Dept./Contribs)} 03:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Unless it's stated in the show "Nathan loves to be motivated," then you are speculating that based on your own perceptions of the show, no matter how true it may seem to you, it is still speculation, and wikipedia is NOT for speculative statements. Karpsmöm 05:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

It's in the episode "Murdering Outside the Box"

I find it funny that its stated that Nathan is always wearing black nail polish when he has none on in the band pic at the top of the page...I'm sure I could find instances of him w/o it in the show too.

Pickles is...

... Irish-American.

should it be noted that Pickles is also the only other member to have lyrics in any songs (Hatredcopter, and sort of in Deththeme)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.172.230 (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Updated Song List

Song list now lists which songs will be in DethAlbum. Also, added new songs only available on DethAlbum. User:Daytonafathead 20:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

when was "Go Into The Water" released on their Myspace page? its been the same 4 songs since the beginning... does anyone have this song!? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.112.70.95 (talk) 15:17, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

It used to be that there'd be a new song whenever a new ep premiered. Yeah. 71.60.159.181 04:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm so glad this was finally released so now I can shut up about Hatredcopter. --Sakaki22 18:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

nordic floating s

that S that keeps jumping around in Toki and Skwisgaar's "English" seems to me to be a fairly accurate representation of how many Scandinavians actually speak English. I can't find any ref to it in Wikipedia, or on google, though. Any cunning linguists out there who have a reference? Gzuckier 20:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Skwisgaar in guitar world

Hes gonna be in guitar world magazine. says so in dethkloks myspace blog —Preceding unsigned comment added by Insaneingus (talk • contribs) 14:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Nathan based upon George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher

A recent interview with the frontman of Cannibal Corpse stated that Brendon Small based the Nathan Explosion character off of George Fisher. I'll include sources when I am able to access a computer without a work firewall. 147.72.64.218 14:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, it's in the August issue of Terrorizer magazine, which is hitting the news stands in the US soon. Here's a small excerpt from the article that I could find.

'Corpsegrinder also dispelled rumours that he (and not 'Metalocalypse's musical composer and performer, co-creator Brendon Small) voiced band leader Nathan Explosion-- though he did confirm a connection between himself and the Dethklok vocalist. "Brendon and Tommy do all the voices for the band. A lot of people were asking me if I did Nathan Explosion and I was like, 'No, that's Brendon. He does awesome death vocals!' People kept telling me, 'Nathan Explosion looks like you! That's you, man!'. So I asked Brendon and he was like, 'Well yeah, we modelled him after you.' I thought that was cool, to have a cartoon modelled after me. I was like, 'Well, if you ever make a live-action movie, God damn it I'd better be in it! I am Nathan Explosion!' I will do 'Metalocalypse' for as long as it runs-- if it's on for 50 years, I'll still be doing it when I'm 80-something. That would be awesome."' RogueA 19:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The band's locality

This article says that Dethklok is from the U.S. but on [|http://dethalbum.com] they're called a "norwegian band." Should we change it? Please discuss. User:Evilmick66 15:35, 28 Sept. '07 (UTC)

they're half american, half norwegian.User:Dezzrek —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

They are an american/nordic band, But in the myspace they say that Mordhouse is in U.S.A.

Let the Dying Begin

It says in the article in the songs section that "Laser Cannon Deth Sentence" aka "Let the Dying Begin" was "Available as a clip featured on The Dethalbum Deluxe Edition". It is not on the Dethalbum deluxe edition, unless they meant the clip that's on the episode on the second disc. I think it should be removed, because it was never actually released, people just get it by recording and cutting audio from the episode. And we should decide on either "Laser Cannon Deth Sentence" or "Let the Dying Begin". I say the latter, as it is actually a quote from the show, and they gave no official title that I remember. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.132.180 (talk) 05:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I re-watched the episode, and it so happens that "Laser Cannon Deth Sentnce" is also a quote from the song. My bad. I like "Let the Dying Begin" better though. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.132.180 (talk) 05:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Virtual Band or Fictional Band?

This seems to be a point of contention and we ought to make some progress on it. I vote to call Dethklok a "virtual" band simply because "fictional" implies that the band and its music are not real. In my mind, a "fictional" band is one that is simply mentioned in a work of fiction, however Dethklok has released a real album of real music and "they" are about to go on a real tour. Regardless of whether the characters are real, the music certainly is. KyuzoGator 14:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, fictional bands are just that, purely fictional. Dethklok is like Gorillaz in they are virtual performers backed by actual musicians. --Tucats 19:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Detharmonic influences

Next to Detharmonic it says "Possibly influenced by Metallica's 1999 performance of For Whom the Bell Tolls with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra." I don't think this is accurate, It seems more to be a refrence to the Symphonic Metal genre in general. as if it was, then it would probably be influenced by the entire S$M album from Metallica. Change this?