Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glossary of fan fiction terms
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Glorified dictionary. Uncited and ORish for the past seventeen months. Will (talk) 19:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete per WP:OR and is also cruft. Doc Strange 22:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Strong delete per WP:SYNTH, not a speedy candidate but just an unsalvageable list. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, but Recommend trimming, renaming and new, stricter guidelines for article in question. Here's the background you guys may be missing, as well as why I think it should be kept, but how it could be improved to bring it in line with WP policies and guidelines and make it useful again - or, failing that, a nice compromise:
- I was part of the group that originally split this. I was not, however, the one who created the idea of the section, which already existed in another article. It was originally part of the main article for Fan fiction, and was split at the same time as the Legal Issues section, because both were taking up too much room in then-massive (and still really big) original article, and there was no other way to prevent them from taking up too much space in it without splitting. However, it is not entirely useless when taken for what it originally was before its not-wholly-perfect name change (more on that in a moment) - that is, as a subarticle of fan fiction that complements the original by filling in the gaps. Fan fiction is one of those things that happens to have attracted a community of massive size, which naturally almost immediately began gaining its own set of jargon that is in some cases (such as Mary Sue, which already has its own currently B Class article) is really strange to newcomers. Many of these terms, such as Mary Sue, Canon (fiction), and Slash fiction, embody notable concepts that have been the subject of serious academic and literary commentary and themselves already have articles on this encyclopedia, sometimes B class or better as is the case with Mary Sue. However, simply including the terms in separate articles without interconnecting them makes it much more difficult for people who are trying to get an overview of fan fiction-related terminology to actually get it, as it involves tracking down and opening countless articles, which may or may not be categorized in such a way as to make their relationship to fan fiction clear. It is my belief that there is a solution here, though.
- It is NOT unsalvageable, just even difficult to salvage. If we renamed it to "list of fan fiction terms and concepts" or something very similar, and retained it merely as a convenient common list of terms which are notable enough to retain their own Wikipedia articles or which there are actual sources to support their notability, then it's perfectly salvageable, and hell, I'll even volunteer to do it, if you'll give me a couple of weeks (I have a couple of papers due this week, but after that I'm a lot freer). How does that sound? Runa27 00:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)