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British Airways Flight BA38

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This is a news story (an interesting one, for a day or two) not an encyclopedia topic. Nobody was killed, it's apparently not an incident of any historical import, just a minor air crash. WP:NOT a newspaper. kingboyk (talk) 14:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep, this is the first time a 777 has had an accident and it happened at the worlds busiest airport just metres from the Prime Minister. Also, this article is less than two hours old, I think we should wait a bit before nominating it for deletion. --Philip Stevens (talk) 14:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think we should wait a bit before making articles on news articles. We are not a news service. The article currently fails to demonstrate it's own importance. "Just metres from the prime minister" - oh really?! He was at Heathrow but I doubt it was metres, and he wasn't hit. Sorry. --kingboyk (talk) 14:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep - 0 fatalities does not equal 0 notability. Any failure of a vehicle carrying that number of passengers is noteworthy, especially at an airport that busy, or owned by an airline that large. Radagast (talk) 14:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep - agree with above user - the proximity of the incident to the British Prime Minister who happened to be going to China himself (from whence the plane came) make this notable, plus the fact that 777s are normally considered to be fairly safe aircraft. -- Roleplayer (talk) 14:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep In terms of aircraft accidents, this is a significant one as it is the first major failure of a Boeing 777. I think it better to just let this article develop, though I understand the notnews concerns. Woody (talk) 14:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The first hull loss of a Boeing 777 is notable. Mjroots (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not encyclopedic; it's newspaper material, not encyclopedia article material. Not the first time a 777 has had a major failure; see Boeing 777. 400m is a quarter mile/half a kilometer away; not "close". This incident is already included as a 2-line entry in the Boeing 777 article, where it belongs (first hull loss is indeed notable for inclusion in that article, just not as an article of its own). When this AFD ends in a few days, with some perspective, I suspect it will be more obvious to everyone that this shouldn't be a stand-alone article. --barneca (talk) 15:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • KeepFirst accident involving the Boeing 777, significant importance. --Markie (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Obvious Speedy Keep Definitely notable for a large aircraft from a major airline to crash land at one of the world's major airports. This is not "just" a news story, it is a news story right now because it has just happened but it is a notable event that will no doubt continue to generate encyclopedic content. For an example of what such an article would likely expand into see Air France Flight 358 which is an almost identical incident (identical in all the important ways, bar the fire). When that article was created it also just sounded like a news story [1], but only because that is the only information that was available. Random Fixer Of Things (talk) 15:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or merge to Boeing 777. I'm sure that, today, this looks like "history-in-the-making"... but it's not. It'll be forgotten by Saturday. Mandsford (talk) 15:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe you are right about it being forgotten but that doesn't change how notable it is. Notable is not the same as well known. There are plenty of things that the majority of people have forgotten about, or never knew about, that are still notable. It may not be news tomorrow but, as the nominator points out, Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Random Fixer Of Things (talk) 15:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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