Talk:Jon Voight

Nationality

Jon Voight's grandfather was ethnical german - in german 'sudetenland' or 'sudetendeutsch' (see wikipedia). they lived there for almost 1000 years but nowadays it's cech territory and the germans were kicked out or even slaughtered after 1945. the name voigt is very common in eastern Germany - whereas the 'h' in Jon Voight's name was added to enable a convenient pronunciation of the former german name. Elisa

elisa! please stop your propanda based editing in englisch and german wikipedia without valid sources! Their are enough examples of people having a name that doesn't correspond to their nationality! 25% of german family names have slavic origin, or do you think Dirk Nowitzki is Polish? Furthermore we are talking about eastern Slovakia,the minoritys over there are AFAIK mainly Hungarians, Ukranians and Gipsies. [Popolfi]--217.224.13.33 16:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Prove of German origin

Here's the latest info [from 28-8-07] on his daughter Angelina Jolie - maybe you can calculate a bit, Popofili:

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In detail it says: " [...] blickt ihr Vater auf europäische Ahnen zurück. Seine Großeltern stammten beide aus Deutschland." Translate: "Her father's ancestors are european. Both his Grandparents are from Germany". Means: his Grandparents from mother's and father's side!

Nevertheless, Voigt IS a German name, and everyone here in Europe (on the continent, not so much in UK) has a little more knowledge about history and frontiers being drawn, but people not being moved (and keeping their ethnic background - US is different, we all know....ELISA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.186.123.65 (talk) 11:08, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

@ Popofili

I am expecting an accurate excuse from your side, as you are spreading propaganda against me by not arguing with the subjetct itself but spreading tendential lies, no one can really check! ELISA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.186.123.65 (talk) 11:23, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Dear Elisa, "web.de" is really a valid and elaborated source, why not a Micky Mouse Comic?!? BTW: I'm German and I know enough history to know that Slovakia never was a part of any German Empire not even of the Holy Empire! Seine Großeltern stammten beide aus Deutschland is 100% nonsense since Slovakia didn't even belong to Austria but to the Hungarian Crown - like the Shetlands belong to the Scottish and not to the English Crown. (Na, vielleicht mehr richtige Bücher und weniger Bild-Zeitung lesen???) Popolfi --217.224.55.163 (talk) 15:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Among Chicagoans from the neighborhood it's well known that Voight's father was Jewish. This thread is comical. He did a Chabad telethon in California years ago and joked about how he was taught he wasn't Jewish by a classmate familiar with Halachah.

Kosice was Austria back then

See [[2]] When his Grampa Voigt moved, he was a citizen of the Austrian Monarchy. But was of German ethnical background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.186.123.65 (talk) 11:15, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

As one can easily see in this map "Kaschau" was a part of Hungary! Elisa please start to bring valid sources... popolfi --130.83.2.27 (talk) 18:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Voight being German...

Voight is a german name but I believe he was czech. Czechs and germans have always lived together in the sudentenland. That would explain the german name and czech ancestry. Can you verify that he is German? I am pretty sure his family heritage was Czech from the sudentenland.

• • He is often confused with actor Christopher Walken. **

What kind of nonsense is this ?!? He looks / acts nothing at all like Christopher Walken! I wanted to delete this, but I have never edited anything on Wikipedia before and so I wasn't so brash as to do so. But if no one responds to this comment giving any kind of justification, I will go and delete that sentence.

Christopher Walken is in turn often confused with actor Dennis Leary... does this mean Jon Voight, Dennis Leary, and Christopher Walken all are confused for eachother?

Rosewood

Voight also played in the movie Rosewood with Ving Rhames. This should be added to the filmography.

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he also played in a movie called " a sleep of prisoners" which was aired on national television in 1964 or 1965. i am looking for a copy of this movie and would appreciate any help. thanks andy karpf, "andykarpf@yahoo.com"

For the person who denied that Voight is usually confused with Christopher Walken, consider that the only reason I am visiting Wikipedia, is to once and for all settle the dispute between me and my friends about the identity of Nicholas Cage's character's dad in the movie "National Treasure." We are divided 3 to 5, me being in the minority arguing that the role is played by Christopher Walken. A few minutes ago, I found out that I am wrong... as I was about the Character in the Movie "Holes"

Apparently, there are lots of people out there like me who think the two look alike and do confuse them with each other therefore, it's not Nonsensical.

Photo caption

Jon Voight at an April 2005 meeting with Senator Norm Coleman and rabbis from Chabad Lubavich

Since his is the only full and recognisable face in the photo, does it matter who else was at the meeting with him? I don't think the others are worthy of mention. JackofOz 03:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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Voight merits better than opening his bio with the "better known as the father of Angelina Jolie" stuff. Weak beginning for an entry on such an important actor. Given he had no hand in her upbringing, or any evident influence on her career, that familial link is worth merely a brief mention further down in the article.

Funnily enough, had come here to say the same thing. And anyway it's a point of view, I'm a young person sort of and I best know Jon Voight as Jon Voight, the bloke from Midnight Cowboy. BennyFromCrossroads 22:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Jon voight was born to slovak - american family...

Jon Voight is the star of Midnight cowboy and father of Angelina Golie. He was born to Slovak - American family. His father was born in eastern Slovakia where Jon Voight went for holidays. There are few articles on the NET about his visits there. Interestingly Eastern Slovakia is a birth place to Andy Warhol parents too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Georgeison (talk • contribs) 10:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Then how do you explain his German surname? I still think, he is of Sudeten-German ancestry, at least on his paternal side. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.255.38.124 (talk) 04:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

People need to realize that your surname may or may not have nothing to do with your ancestry. My surname is Freeburg, but my family is Norwegian.

Barbara Kamp was a sister to Joseph P. Kamp, both children of Joseph Kamp, a tailor orginally from Westphalia, Germany. --LC 19:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It's true that Voight or Vogt are very common names in Germany, but it most likely originates from latin "Advocatus" [3], it's the title of an administrative official you find in wide areas of central europe and not necessarily speaking German. Beside German spellings their are plenty of Slavic forms like "Voitka" or "Wojt". The only valid possibility to find out "ethnicity" is to find out what language Jon Voight's grandparents were speaking at home [4], does anybody have a time machine??? ;-) Anyway the administrativ language of the time of his emmigration was Hungarian. Maybe (!?!) he was a Carpatian German [5] (not Sudeten German) and MOST LIKELY he was multilingual. Popolfi --217.224.55.163 (talk) 14:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Need to add Bratz movie?

I heard he's in the Bratz filmcan anyone confirm this and add it. Thanks--Wayne Neptune 03:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Recent Career

There's a difference between being negative and telling the truth, and the article needs a little bit of the latter. The truth is Voight hasn't been in a decent movie in years and continues, for reasons unfathomable, to play roles in terrible, terrible, movies. Case in Point: Superbabies 2, Karate Dog, Bratz. What is the man thinking? JyL 18:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)