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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Pkapsales (talk | contribs) at 06:22, 13 February 2008 (Atlantic Baseball Confederation my response to comments). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Any reason you haven't responded to my inquiry? Quite frankly, don't volunteer for the job if you are not able to competently perform it.

Deleted article

I see you have filed arbitration on an issue regarding a deleted article and supposed Administrator abuse. I would just like to talk to you about how things work on Wikipedia. I'll speak of arbitration a bit later.

The article Atlantic Baseball Confederation (and its related articles on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlantic Baseball Confederation) were deleted on the basis that they were not notable, which means that the subject must have demonstrated notability across multiple, verifiable, reliable sources, something the article apparently did not have. As User:Hersfold said on the article for deletion page, "notability is not inherited", so the point that some of the players signed professional contracts does not establish notability.

Regarding arbitration, that is the last step in dispute resolution, when all other steps are exhausted. Arbitration is not the Wikipedia Complaints Department.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. x42bn6 Talk Mess 23:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding response from involved admin

see User:Pkapsales. I think the response you seem not to have seen is there. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 23:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

in addition...

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I second Rocksanddirt's comment, and add that, if you feel that the articles should not have been deleted for some reason, or - more likely - if you feel that you have additional sources or information that could establish the notability of these Basketball leagues, and wish to propose recreating the articles with those additional sources, then you will want to go to Deletion Review. There is a process for this, and it takes place well before an arbitration committee case is warranted. Please feel free to direct any questions you may have about this process to my talk page. Thank you. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 15:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic Baseball Confederation and your request for artbitration

As you've likely noticed, your request for arbitration is likely to be rejected. If you believe that an article was wrongfully deleted, you should file a complaint here. I have to warn you, though, that from what I can see, the deletion was very much in keeping with Wikipedia's policies. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic Baseball Confederation: My response to comments

Sorry to tell you that it is quite obvious the "volunteers" at Wiki would have been enthusiastic party members in the USSR and Nazis in Germany if they were born in a different time and place. The abuse of authority is quite obvious and quite frankly, the pathetic user interface of your site discourages anyone not familiar with the process or HTML since it is not worth the effort to get involved with any disagreements.

I still don't see the response from the editor. Maybe it is there, but I can't find it.

Regarding your idiotic statements about "The article Atlantic Baseball Confederation (and its related articles on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlantic Baseball Confederation) were deleted on the basis that they were not notable, which means that the subject must have demonstrated notability across multiple, verifiable, reliable sources, something the article apparently did not have."

Who determines notability? Someone completely ignorant of the subject (as was the case)? Consistency does not exist regarding submissions. Some summer leagues had submissions similar or with less signficant information that I submitted, yet they were not deleted. If the editor took a minute and Googled the summer league, they would have found numerous links to check "notability." At least 30 published articles in the hard print media (most still available online) exist about the League. Can you name one summer league with the same coverage? Yet they have Wiki pages and the editor deleted my submission.

What is multiple reliable and verifiable sources? There is nothing in this whole encyclopedia that meets that criteria. All the editors do is check another online source that may be right or wrong. Original sources are never checked. You would need access to the numerous databases in an academic library to accomplish that (and that would only be half the battle since most sources are not even in the databases but still in hard copy).

The summer collegiate league in question also played the Russian National Team this past summer in their 25th anniversary tour of the USA. This made the CBS Early Show plus several news broadcasts. Is that notable?

I can understand why every professor in accredited colleges and universities forbids the use of Wiki. The information is controlled by poorly educated volunteers who abuse their power and bias the content. Anyone who has a career or a life cannot spend time fooling around with this site nor the group think and "closed society" that exists. ppk (talk) 06:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]