Talk:F. W. Murnau

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Rumor

A nice way to smear a man is to report rumors about him. Who was in the car observing Murnau before he died? The homosexual interest group had to include their little piece of gossip in order to have it appear that their preferred behavior is widespread and acceptable.Lestrade 12:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

"The homosexual interest group"? Damn, why don't I ever get invited to these things?

The article does state the verifiable facts: he did die in a car accident and Stevenson was driving the car. It also states the widely circulated rumor about what caused the accident, but does note quite clearly that it is only a rumor and gives its source as Hollywood Babylon. There's no support for the claim and it's surely false, but it is well known and has become part of the Murnau myth.

Or are you going further than that and saying that merely insinuating he was gay is a smear? But Murnau was gay. It was a well-kept secret in Hollywood, but then again, he wasn't in Hollywood very long. Back in Germany, it was widely known. Comparatively speaking, Wiemar Germany was a pretty good time and place to be out, as is evident from the numerous openly gay-themed films to come from it (Different From the Others, Michael, Pandora's Box, Sex in Chains, Diary of a Lost Girl, etc), and Murnau was known to mix in the various gay theatrical circles there. Murnau's own films, while by no means explicit, have the running theme of forbidden and ill-fated love. This isn't an example of revisionist history and certainly isn't a "smear". --Franz 13:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• HOMOSEXUAL INTEREST GROUP. Damn right, congratulations Lestrade. These people just went around putting the LGBT tag at every single biography or even every single article. This is an intelligent way to argue their behavior is popular and acceptable indeed. "Look at all these people doing it, even those whom you like did it, so it's pretty cool. In fact, why don't you try? Come over to the gay parade and let's fight this bigot world. Freedom to the people! Burn the flag! We are all equals!In fact, homos are better then heteros, look at all our popular brothers and sister! Your hero is, you should too!". Sadly, sometimes it works; mainly among teenagers. That's why this is the first time in months I come to this shitty website. Just to get misinformed and pissed. As Pesci always said: go fuck your mother. It would fit your healthy sex life.

remove that gossip

Why is that stupid gossip still in the page? The book where you can find that "information" is full of stupid rumors and legends. Murnau is one of the most important film director of all times, who don't deserves this treatment. The sexuality of this person is not important, we can write a lot about murnau's filmography but someone thinks that his sexual life is more important. This page offends not only murnau, but wikipedia.

There isn't a logical and plausible way to demonstrate that Murnau was doing a fellatio on the car driver, this rumor probably born from the ancient (stupid and racist) mentality that all gay people are pedophilians. So i remove it.

Bobbore

Camera nonsense

"In films prior to The Last Laugh the camera was used solely as a stationary device, this feature was the first to incorporate techniques that involved camera movement, such as tracking shots, pans, tilts, and zooms." -- Anyone who has seen more than a few silent films knows that this is nonsense. All of these techniques were used well before TLL, tracking being particularly common. What makes TTL unique is the very advanced use of the techniques throughout the film, often to marked psychological effect.