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I question the repeated use of the phrase "had to" in this article. Dr. N could have refused to perform these horrific acts and to become a part of the Nazi death machine. Of course, Dr. N would have died if he had refused to follow orders; but if someone asked me to sacrifice myself or to aid killers and maimers of children I do hope and believe I would have the grace to choose death. The "sonderkommandos" who aided the Nazis were despised by the other prisoners and after the war were ostracized -- and rightly so.

Linftdix 23:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you are never in a situation where you have to make that choice. Do you question the ethics and "grace" of the people who trampled children in order to get to try and escape the gas in the gas chambers? 165.189.169.190 (talk) 17:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This issue--which I believe to be close to the central moral question of the Holocaust--is an extremely complex one. Having read Dr. Nyiszli's book five or six times, and having done research on the Holocaust for over fifteen years, I still, of course, have no answer to it. But I must say that--having glanced at this article--it does seem to me to skim over this issue entirely with language that attempts to exonerate Dr. Nyiszli. Yes: The one or two sentences in the second paragraph basically serve simply to express the writer's judgment that Nysizli had no other choice, or that he bears no responsibility for his actions. These are debatable points, to say the least. In particular, I draw all readers' attention to the many portions of Nyiszli's memoir that describe what I can only call acts of the grossest barbarism, in tones that are strangely removed form the acts they describe. Although I do read Hungarian, I read Nyiszli in the English translation. But the tone of his general writing was astonishing to me, especially on first reading. He didn't seem to evidence any realization of the significance or seriousness of his actions. I am, again, not making a judgment on what he should have done in Auschwitz, where Mengele's hand hovered over not only his life, but also on that of his wife and child. Neither am I making any judgments on what anyone else should do in such a situation. But I do think the article, as written, should be amended or re-written somewhat. I may try to replace a few sentences with more neutral or at least less POV language. 69.203.13.82 (talk) 05:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC) Allen Roth[reply]

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Aushwitz concentration camp was located in Poland occupied by Nazi Germany. German state, German soldiers, and German politicains elected in free elections were responsible for Aushwitz. There was no single Polish soldier, or state official who took part in establishing Aushwitz or any other concentration camp. As Poland was under German occupation and Polish pople were decided to be exterminated together with Jews, Roms, homo-sexuals, Russians, and any other considered by Hitler to be "under-man". I'd like to start seeing information that would be accurate at least on the very basic level.

_None_ of the concentration camps was Polish. The biggest concentration camps were established in occupied Poland by German agressor. The sole reason was the amount of Jewish population in Poland that totaled in 15% of the whole population (over 3 milion people).

Saying Polish concentration camp is like saying that Japaneese nuked themselves during WWII as bombs were detonated in Japan.

Paul, Poland.

Excuse me, but I think that the autor of this article hasn't well red te book of Niyszli! Dr. Miklos Niyszli wasn't working in crematorium 3 but in Krematorium 2 (Auschwitz-Birkenau) [Krematorium 1 of Birkenau]

Johan Puttemans, Belgium

I'd like to see more substantive material documenting Dr. Nyiszli's life. I haven't been able to find ANYTHING about this author except what's listed in the book. I'm not questioning whether or not he actually lived. I want to know more about the good doctor before the events of WWII. I can't document his life and I've gone to reputable sources of Judaica to do so. Any help, people? T. Dunn United States

Two different dates are given for Miklos Niyszli's death, 1956 and 1949.

Ron Ebbert, USA

--Aemathisphd 18:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "criticism" article given is from the neo-Nazi IHR Web site. I think it ought to be deleted, unless Charles Provan has published it elsewhere.

Andrew E. Mathis, Holocaust History Project. --Aemathisphd 18:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would include a link to Provan's article. Provan shows that Nyiszli existed and that the vast majority of what Nyiszli wrote is likely true. Provan only quibbles about certain details. dadge@hotmail.com (Adrian Bailey)

Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! JubalHarshaw 17:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Family!?

The article doesn't mention what happened to his wife/daughter - did they survive the war?