Talk:Barbaro family
See also Talk:Barbaro family/Archive1
re "The noble Barbaro family continues to exist today"
A Web search of the contents of the Zorzi book cited comes up with three occurrences of the name Barbaro in it, none of which have anything to do with the family's present-day existence; and I can find no evidence for the other cited source at all. Unless sources through which this statement can be verified are cited in such a way that they can be checked, it should, I think, remain out of the article. Deor (talk) 00:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Indicating that noble Barbaros are still in existance is relevant to the history of the family and for futur research of its existing memebers. The information that I added is coming from the Zorzi book: On pages 261-292 there is a section labled: "Chronology, Doges, Patrician Families, Regiments, and Place Names. On p. 278 under THE VENETIAN PATRICIATE "existing families as of 1999, the fith one down is "BARBARO: An Illustrious family that produced, among others, the humanist and politician Marc'Antonio, and his brother Francesco, Patriarch of Aquileia, both of whom were patrons of Palladio and Veronese." Zorzi, the author of the book, also comes from a Venetian noble family too.Mctrain (talk) 00:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
In the the 2005 book "Filosofia e storiografia" by Francesca Rizzo and Girolamo Cotroneo, it states the following on pg.377:
<<quella serie luminosissima di eroi, che mentre stanno a decoro dell'Italica, dirò meglio, dell'umana famiglia, formano la gloria prima della patria [ossia della città di Venezia] e l'onorato orgoglio dei nepoti>>. In effeti dall'Enciclopedia storico-nobiliare italiana, I, Milano 1928, pp.502-503, risulta che nel 1818 due discendenti di Ermalao Barbaro, Giovanni Battista ed Alessandro Barbaro, divenuto consigliere aulico e presidente del Tribunale di Treviso, morì nel 1846.
Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 10:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This page is filled with old talk
The talk on this page is out dated, and can be filed away. I have tried to archive it, but it is hard to do. If someone knows how to do that, please do, thanks.Mctrain (talk) 15:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Bishonen | talk 18:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC).
Sockpuppetry and hoaxes
Hello, Per this sockpuppet report, and this checkuser request, several editor who have made significant edits to this page, have been confirmed as abusive sockpuppets/sockpuppeteers:
- User:Mctrain
- User:Tiki-two
- The IP range 65.141.156.0/23
- Note: These IP's come from a large ISP pool, so I want to make it clear I'm not specifically accusing all IP edits starting with 65... of being this person. But it appears many of them are.
The Checkuser (see bottom of WP:RFCU link) indicates this person has a long history of adding hoax material to articles; unfortunately, they also seem to have a history of adding legitimate information as well, so their changes can't just be blindly-reverted. I do not have enough knowledge of this particular subject to be helpful, but I suggest those of you who do, and regularly maintain this page, go back and review these users' additions, remove anything they've added that can't be sourced and verified, and add citations for anything that can be sourced but is currently unreferenced, to remove any suspicion of the legitimacy of the article.
They appear to be somewhat prolific, so if a new account shows up lobbying for re-insertion of any material you folks end up deleting as unsourced, I'd suggest being a bit wary, and insisting even more strongly than perhaps we usually do on verifiable, reliable sources for everything they try to add. They tend to cite "rare" sources that they have in their possession, so I guess emphasis on "verifiable".
I'm not checking each article I tag with this information, so if you've already noticed this misbehavior and dealt with it, feel free to mark this section resolved or something. --barneca (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Improving the article
Right now, this article is rather poorly organized, and it would benefit from expansion and additional clarity. I also think that the title is rather vague- especially since Barbaro can also be a common family surname. This article should follow suit with other noble family articles by labing it "House of Barbaro", rather than "Barbaro family"Dr.Oak (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)