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Fruitless Discussion allowed, but not a serious comparison?

Why doesn't the person who erased my comment regarding the allusion to a scene in the book The Sirens of Titan also erase the fruitless discussion below that centers around comparisons of ID4 to the War of the Worlds? If my comment sucked sufficiently (and violated WP:FORUM, supposedly) so as to merit deletion, so does theirs. Just because you have perhaps not read The Sirens of Titan, doesn't mean my comment is worthy of deletion. The book is amazing, a rollicking hilarious space epic, and much better than ID4, for that matter. This comment is inevitably destined for deletion by the same person who killed my last one, so if you read this before deletion, consider your intellect to have been augmented in some way. Hi Ho. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 20:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aircraft

hey what aircraft were used in the film?(76.211.140.155 (talk) 20:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Blu-ray release date

The article erroneously claimed that the Blu-ray was released on March 11 2008. While this was indeed the US release date, it was available in the UK almost three months earlier, on December 24 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mentasm (talk • contribs) 00:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similarities to War of the Worlds

I could avoid "weasel wording" by describing precisely how the plot is the same as The War of the Worlds (aliens come and attack Earth, are defeated by viruses, etc.), but then it becomes original research as all the sources I can find that meet all of Wikipedia's 758 requirements that confront this issue are sensible enough to describe it as something like "a cursory retelling with a small twist". Would a reputable plot summary of the WotW novel along with one of the ID film be enough? My suspicion is that because it wouldn't actually point out the similarities, it wouldn't be enough. Can I appeal to WP: Common Sense? Raoul (talk) 09:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While it is obvious that it is an "update" of sorts of WOTW, the common sense mentality would apply. But a statement of such would be better suited in the production section with sources of the filmmakers specifically explaining the inspiration. Listing a spoiler is no longer a concern; Wikipedia even discourages using the spoiler tag. But placing a statement beginning with "some felt" indicates hearsay and opinion, and adding a source only indicates the same of those mentioned. Placing this in the "critical response" section of a film article can indicate a positive/negative impression of the film inherent only to the statement. It'd be best to list a notable critic's explanation as to why the similarites to WOTW was advantageous or detrimental to the movie. - SoSaysChappy (talk) 02:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I'll drop this as I have no interest in looking through either loads of interviews to find the writers' inspiration or a lot of major reviews to try and find a mention of the similarities and how they impact the quality. Half of one of your sentences suggests that you misunderstood what I was doing with the sources, but it doesn't affect your argument, so I don't see any point in debating it. Raoul (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the computer virus was a modern homage to the biological virus from War of the Worlds. And El Toro plays a role in both movies (the original, not the Tom Cruise version). This, plus the fact that there's an alien invasion, what else does this movie really have in common with the novel? - Jombage (talk) 05:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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