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Is their title really pulled from Kill Bill 2, or is it just a coincidence?


Yes, it is. They say so on their Myspace page.

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BetacommandBot 04:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thrash? Groove?

Sorry but where the hell did this come from? They sound absolutly nothing like Groove Metal or Thrash Metal. They sound alot more like an Alternative Metal band and have been associated with bands like that. They just don't sound extreme enough to be either of those genres. -Snook666 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snook666 (talkcontribs) 21:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Id have to agree with Snook666 they are more like Alternativ Metal with a bit of Groove Metal, definetly not Thrash Metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.177.74 (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neither. And they are in no way, shape or form, metalcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vayhemar (talkcontribs) 22:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nah, they're groove/thrash...just not excellent representatives of groove or thrash. they aren't metalcore, agreed, and they really aren't that alt metal unless you've only heard never enough or the bleeding. they use a lot of thrash riffs, thrash/groove drumming, and plenty of melodic guitar solos, not really alternative metal style. the only thing that makes them even somewhat alt metal is ivan moody's clean vocals, but then you could even argue that bands like all that remains and killswitch are alternative metal nowadays. Itachi1452 (talk) 20:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that they are indeed a Groove/Thrash band. In fact on their official site [1] they have a bunch of reviews that state that the band has fused the Groove and Thrash genres together perfectly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.119.174.211 (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photographs

Hey, I just wanted you guys to know that I found a bunch of photographs from the Mayhem Festival on Flickr under a free liscense (here). If you'd like to use them I suggest you upload them to Wikimedia Commons, if you need any further help with it I'd be happy to help, just drop me a line on my talk page. REZTER TALK ø 00:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop messing with the chart positions! If you don't have the official R&R and Nielsen Data! JUST STOP!

Never Enough (as of today) #26 The Bleeding peak postition #7 on Active Rock Format. Never Enough peak position #7 on Active Rock Format.

Do your homework or STOP messing with the data. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.54.141.238 (talk) 20:34, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About the chart positions

The Bleeding = #9 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock Tracks Never Enough = #9 Stranger Than Fiction = #27 All of them charted as of today. You should be the one to do your homework and stop messing with the chart positions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MetalMagnet1987 (talkcontribs) 13:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For real, somebody on this page only wishes they charted higher than number 9. All of the official data is right here: [2]. Nobody else uses data from R&R so I don't know why my edits keep getting reverted. AcousticSynth (talk) 01:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you are dead wrong...

There are two official monitoring systems:

BDS owned by Nielsen and the other one is Media Base... If you are getting your data from some website that's lagging on updates (such as billboard.com) - that's 2nd hand data at best. (Btw. Billboard itself gets the data from BDS)

The correct positions are #7 on both.

Metalcore

Can I have some arguements as to how their style is not reminiscent of metalcore? Some of the yelled vocals, most of the clean vocals, and the melodies all seem like they draw influence from atleast hardcore, if not metalcore. Zaruyache (talk) 20:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Darrell Robert's Departure?

Darrell Roberts is listed under former members, however the band's official site has no reference to his departure. We need to either verify the change or remove that section from the page. Strat0master14 (talk) 17:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]