Talk:First ScotRail

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The use of "Scotland's national" in the first sentence does not seem quite right. Please see Strategic Rail Authority. The fact that ScotRail is in the brand name does not make the fanchise Scotland's national fanchise. And there are other service operators using lines in Scotland. Laurel Bush.

I don't have a problem with it. It seems fine to me. The other operators' services are mostly south of the border. ScotRail operate the only intra-Scotland services, and have only two minor cross border services. It would seem to me that they are the national operator within Scotland. --Colin Angus Mackay

"However, the company has now been renamed ScotRail - Scotland's Railways." This is wrong. Scotrail is the brand name introduced by Transport Scotland last year under which the majority of services are operated, but the operating company remains as First Scotrail, owned by First Group. --Donnan Strachan

Split article?

It might be an idea to split the NEG ScotRail part of the article away from the First ScotRail bulk. They are separate companies so they should have their own pages. Our Phellap 12:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. Ultimately, it's the same franchise, with the same trains, network, timetable and staff. All that's changed is the managers and the colour of the trains and the uniforms. Maccoinnich 13:13, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

The article seems to be primarily about a franchise issued by the Strategic Rail Authority, not about any particular company with a lease of the fanchise. Also the article seems to include clear references to articles about relevant companies. Laurel Bush.

Picture of Class 334

The caption indicates that the train is approaching Cardonald Station. Looking at the trackwork, it not Cardonald Junction. Can anyone please identify?

Stewart 16:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merger with ScotRail?

Following the rebranding of the franchise, should this be linked with the ScotRail page with historical information on the brand and past franchises along with information on the company today. Discuss (Jacqueline2008 (talk) 14:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]

personal opinion is that the line at the top of the old scotrail page is enough - maybe a similar line should be added to the top of this one directing people to the old one lordmwa (talk) 15:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Status Quo. As I posted in the NEG article. To combine the articles is not the way forward. Take other now defunct TOCS, like GNER whose services are still largely the same, with just a different company operating it. They still have an separate entry. How would this fit in with the Template:Defunct_UK_TOCs? It's just because the names are similar that confusion happens. This is not good enough reason to merge.--86.155.186.118 (talk) 23:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]