Talk:The Drew Carey Show

Would adding this article to a category called "Historical Shark Jumps" be POV, or would it be indeed encyclopedic to the purpose of providing exemplary cases of television shows jumping the shark to someone researching such a thing?

"Jumping the shark" is very POV and very subjective. Just let the numbers and facts tell the story. Azn Clayjar 15:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivial Pursuit

Wikipedia's bias against Trivia sections is a big load. If the section was renamed "Cultural References," then it becomes perfectly acceptable according to Wikipedia rules. How can the administrators justify that? --M.Neko (talk) 07:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Cleavland Rocks?

Thier seems to be no mention of the "Cleavland Rocks" theame ssing in this article. It should probobly be mentioned.

I added references to Cleveland Rocks. -- Broken Arms Gordon 17:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

NPOV?

It seems to me that this article is written in a loving way, and not the proper NPOV way. An example is the phrase "He was a welcome addition to the cast." I'm not sure an encyclopedia should be deciding whom is a "welcome addition" to anything. Adding the NPOV boilderplate.

Wanda Sykes

I recall Wanda Sykes as a cast memeber on the show for a brief period, but I honestly had stopped watching at that point. She needs to be included as well, if she was a major cast member if only for a season. -- Broken Arms Gordon 17:28, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

• According to the Internet Movie Database, she was only on for three episodes. [1] --Metropolitan90 07:56, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Also Jenica Bergere, who played sharon is not mentioned in this article. If i had sources i would use it. Nonsane (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I think the Sharon character deserves to be mentioned. She was on the show for 12 episodes according to imdb. Also the character of Chuck the security guard should also be mentioned.

Fix or vandalism?

This edit changed "Louder" to "Lauder". I known nothing of the topic. Normally, I'd presume something like this was a correction, but the person who did it appears to be a serial vandal. Will someone who knows the topic please have a look? - Jmabel | Talk 14:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the problem, the correct name of the department store is Winfred-Louder. This is according to the official site of the show. --Nehrams2020 23:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

South Park Republican?

When was it revealed on the show that Kate was a "South Park Republican"?

Wording?

". This series was not the same like many other highly-rated, long-running sitcoms that in order to avoid cancellation, beginning in 2001, ABC quickly signed contracts in order to keep the show fresh, but the show went beyond repair and the network wouldn't allow the show to be released from their contracts."

What does this even mean? The grammar is so bad it's all but unintelligible.

Show background

Is there really a need to include references to other TV shows in this section? Surely "However, the show further sank in ratings the following season, unlike many other live sitcoms. Even its series finale's ratings were lower than otherwise would have been expected." would suffice?

The latest edit, ie "However, the show further sank in ratings the following season, unlike many live sitcoms whose series finales were behind, M*A*S*H, Cheers, Married... with Children, Mad About You, Home Improvement, Sex and the City, Frasier, and Friends, whose ratings have dominated. Its series finale had low ratings unlike the many sitcoms that had high ratings before, Everybody Loves Raymond, Will & Grace and The King of Queens, which garnered higher ratings" seems disjointed, doesn't make sense and the references to other programs don't really add anything to the article.--AussieLegend 09:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

The babble you speak of is the work of User:Italianlover07, who does that sort of rot all the time and insists on putting it back after you delete it. I have strong suspicions that he's a sockpuppet of another user, but I don't have the patience to go through the 15-step process to report him since it won't do a bit of good anyway. Lambertman 12:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Gus' naming contest

How about mentioning that Gus was named during a viewer contest?

Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series

I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 16:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Drew's band?

Why is there no mention of Drew's bar band in the article? Kouban (talk) 14:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced material

The following is unsourced information:

• In Carey's bestselling book, Dirty Jokes and Beer, he revealed a list of subject matter that the censors objected to, such as mild language, sexual innuendo, and one episode that made light of a character's mental instability. Carey also mentions that in one second-season episode, he was forced to wear puffy pants because when he sits with tight pants, ABC thought he had an erection, a situation later parodied on the show.

  What page?

• The season 5 episode "Drew Goes to the Browns Game", which coincided with the team returning to the NFL that season, showed the team playing the Minnesota Vikings in their "first game back" when Drew ran onto the field. In reality, the team played their archrivals, the Pittsburgh Steelers, in their first game back, losing 43-0. Carey had been one of the most vocal Browns fans when the original team moved to Baltimore during the show's first season. Carey even did the coin toss for the game, which was nationally televised on ABC's sister network ESPN.

• In one episode with sci-fi props there is a model of a spacecraft from the miniseries V can be seen on a kitchen table.

• Mr. Wick was named by head writer Clay Graham after an old girlfriend who had dumped him in order to "immortalize her treachery."

• Marion Ross made occasional guest appearances as Drew's mother. Her Happy Days co-star Tom Bosley and Tammy Faye Bakker appeared in one episode as Mimi's parents, and she herself was called "Mrs. Cunningham" in an April Fools episode as an intentional goof, referring to Ross' role on Happy Days. 70's sexpot Adrienne Barbeau appeared a few times as Oswald's mother. Lost in Space star, June Lockhart appeared twice as Lewis' mother. Christa Miller's real life aunt Susan Saint James once appeared as Kate's mother. Shirley Jones of The Partridge Family played a senior citizen whom Drew dated for 3 episodes.

• The character of Maggie Wick, Nigel Wick's mother, was originally written for Australian comic actor Dame Edna. When he was unable at the last moment to appear, actor Richard Chamberlain was approached, and he agreed to play the part in drag. One year later, Chamberlain officially "came out" as gay in his autobiography, "Shattered Love."

• In one episode, the guys try to help raise money to help replace Mrs. Louder`s prize showdog, Lucky, whom they accidentally had neutered at a vet`s office. They decide to do an all-male striptease dressed as package-delivery men at the Warsaw to the tune of You Ain`t Seen Nothin` Yet by Bachman-Turner Overdrive. As the guys do their routine on the bartop, the camera shows the patrons, and in the audience are several cast members from the very popular British movie at the time, The Full Monty. The guys are arrested for public nudity and at their trial, the same The Full Monty cast members are seen seated in the audience.

• The producers experimented with different filming techniques the last season. For a few episodes, instead of using the traditional four camera format in front of a live audience, a single camera technique using a "fourth wall" was employed. The experiment was short-lived after the cast, crew, and producers felt the energy was better in front of the large studio audience.

• When "Weird Al" Yankovic appeared on the show, he had recently undergone Lasik surgery and had shaved, so he no longer had his trademark glasses and mustache. The producers felt that the audience would not recognize him and get the "You didn't say you played the accordion..." joke, so they outfitted him with fake glasses and mustache.

• The episode, "My Best Friend's Wedding" had an opening scene that combined live-action with animation where Daffy Duck asks Drew for a job at Winfred-Lauder. Gerry Cohen directed the live-action portion of that sequence and Jeff Siergey directed the animation.

• The bar that Drew and his friends would always go to in the show was called "The Warsaw Tavern." The inspiration for "The Warsaw Tavern" is called "Murphy's Law" and is located on Memphis Ave. in the Old Brooklyn part of Cleveland, Ohio. This was one of Drew's favorite bars he would frequent in real life. The actual exterior structure of Murphy's Law is used on the TV show, although the interior is entirely different. Murphy's Law has autographed pictures of most of the cast members on the walls.

• John Carroll Lynch, who plays Drew's older brother, Steve, is actually five years younger than Drew Carey. The character of Kellie, who went to high school with Carey, was played by Cynthia Watros, who is ten years younger than he.

While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 11:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Blonde

"Lewis Kiniski (Ryan Stiles) - Forms a double-act with Oswald. Lewis, who is tall, lanky, and blonde" -Men are blond, women are blonde...in English as well as French. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.46.72 (talk) 21:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)